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To: Kaslin

As much as I’m against the government involvement in lightbulbs (for crying out loud, we have way too much government), LED lightbulbs will render all this moot.

They’re not yet competitive enough to change the market by supply and demand, but they’re rapidly getting close.

Currently using three led light bulbs. One over my stove. One in a desk lamp, and another in a ceiling spot. The less expensive models are now inching up to 150 lumens. Equivalent to a 25 watt bulb. In the five bucks price range. Currently it’s dark outside, and I’ve got just the led lamps on - I’d call the brightness “subdued”.

Certainly not bright.

But the operating cost of each bulb is rated at 25c per year.

I’m guessing by the time you actually need to replace your next 100 watt bulb, there will be an LED equivalent on the market, for less than 10 bucks.

Forget those polluting, oddball curly compact fluorescent bulbs.

Wait for the LEDs.


14 posted on 11/13/2011 5:11:18 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I use incandescents for heating and lighting at the same time. It’s not just about light and atomizing alleged “illegal uses” of lighting. What the flip do they know in DC? They are hired to facilitate business, not to steal it by micromanaging it and destroying priorities.

It’s all about molestation rights and deresponsibilizing.


17 posted on 11/13/2011 5:18:48 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I use incandescents for heating and lighting at the same time. It’s not just about light and atomizing alleged “illegal uses” of lighting. What the flip do they know in DC? They are hired to facilitate business, not to steal it by micromanaging it and destroying priorities.

It’s all about molestation rights and deresponsibilizing.


20 posted on 11/13/2011 5:19:50 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If you like the cold light spectrum from LEDs.


46 posted on 11/13/2011 6:10:11 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I just asked questions at my local hardware store about LED bulbs yesterday. The man said they have all but stopped ordering them because they were so bad. He did have a few bulbs and a large spotlight type bulb cost $70.
52 posted on 11/13/2011 6:25:58 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

There are applications for 100 watt incandescents where a need exists for the heat they produce. People use them to keep animals warm and to provide just enough heat to keep the temp above freezing under a cabinet for example.

Actual heat lamp bulbs are way more expensive than are simple 100 watt bulbs, but hey, that’s too bad for anyone but a politician.


55 posted on 11/13/2011 6:29:56 AM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I bought some of these vaunted LED bulbs. Cost me $13 apiece, but I thought that if they lasted as long as they’re alleged to do, it would be worth it. They were used for about three to four each evening during the winter months and two to three hours in the summer. They provided a nice, bright light. They were all dead inside of three months.

I have a number of charming antique or antique-style lamps in my house that aren’t going to accommodate a bigger bulb; they just take small decorative incandescents. I don’t want to have to stop using them. I also like to keep some of my lamps on dimmers. Yes, I hear that there are LED and CFL bulbs you can use with a dimmer. They cost a fortune and they make the room look like a scene from a slasher movie.

I want the government to stay out of my bedroom, stay out of my kids’ playroom, stay out of my gun cabinet, stay out of my refrigerator, and stay out of my living room, too.


68 posted on 11/13/2011 7:07:30 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
We have been waiting for about four years for the LED's to improve the warmth of the glow in order to be sufficient for lighting the gallery. Finally in August we found the equivalent replacement for 90 watt Halogens. These bulbs are 17 watts and are estimated to last for 50,000 hours. The first ten we bought were $75 each but we then googled around and found them for half that amount. I suspect the price will continue to tumble.

Here is the good news, the air conditioner doesn't have any work because there is no heat and we got the electrical bill for the first full month. It was cut in half from $400-$200. These bulbs will pay for themselves very quickly and they last forever. Yes I know they are made in China so please do not flame me for that. I am just trying to be realistic with a serious business decision. If the dummies want to waste money on solar panels and all that crap, all we have to do is go to LED lighting and we cut our needs in half. Immediately.

Here is the one we are using:


71 posted on 11/13/2011 7:22:25 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where INVITED Freepers will meet again next summer. Jim Robinson Too)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Why don’t you just use candles?


72 posted on 11/13/2011 7:37:08 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
LEDs have a long way to go. CFLs have tons of issues — expensive, hazardous, eye strain, etc.

As usual, we are stuck in sh!t creek and Feds replace our paddle with a toothpick because the “toothpick” is more environmentally friendly.

When LEDs are practical, I'll be the first to buy them.

83 posted on 11/13/2011 8:35:56 AM PST by dhs12345
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