[stuartcr]

In the 21st century, how does a govt increase security without giving up some freedoms and liberties?

[OldArmy52]

Considering that this police state installation is being done by a regime who actively refuses to enforce immigration laws and attacks any State government who does try to enforce them, the goal is clear. USSA here we go.

[MichaelP]

The whole idea of a Department of Homeland Security is fraught with danger to our liberties. They have expanded their mission to encompass the entire country and have coopted local police agencies to counter the Public Threat, whatever they consider that to be. They aren't just after terrorists, but all manner of illegality.

It is the biggest mastake made in the wake of 911

Mike

[556x45]

Im sure the law & order crowd will be by any time now to explain why all this is good for us.

[blondee123]

Absolutely, they know they can’t take a FREE country like ours & shove it all on us at once, so slowy they are indoctrinating us to getting used to these intrusive searches.

[july4thfreedomfoundation]

John Pistole is a piece of fascist garbage.

He should be in a prison cell and passed around from prisoner to prisoner as they each give him their own version of an “enhanced patdown.”

Just say NO! to the Terminally Stupid Agency, the Department of Fatherland Security, and the American Police State!

[phockthis]

THE UCC CONNECTION / Howard freeman http://freedom-school.com/the-ucc-connection.html FOREWORD This is slightly condensed, casually paraphrased transcript of tapes of a seminar given in 1990 by Howard Freeman. It was prepared to make available the knowledge and experience of Mr. Freeman in his search for an accessible and understandable explanation of the confusing state of the government and the courts. It should be helpful to those who may have difficulty learning from such lectures, or those who want to develop a deeper understanding of this information without having to listen to three or four hours of recorded material. The frustration many Americans feel about our judicial system can be overwhelming and often frightening; and like most fear, eventually, with the seemingly tyrannical power of some governmental agency and the mystifying and awesome power of the courts. We have been taught that we must "get a good lawyer," but that is becoming increasingly difficult, if not impossible. If we are defending ourselves from the government, we find that the lawyers quickly take our money, and then tell us as the ship is sinking, "I can't help you with that - I'm an officer of the court." Ultimately, the only way for us to have even a "snowball's chance …" is to understand the RULES OF THE GAME, and to come to an understanding of the true nature of the Law. The attorney lawyers have established and secured a virtual monopoly over this area of human knowledge by implying that the subject is just too difficult for the average person to understand, and by creating a separate vocabulary out of English words of otherwise common usage. While it may, at times, seem hopelessly complicated, it is not that difficult to grasp - are lawyers really as smart as they would have us believe? Besides, anyone who has been through a legal battle against the government with the aid of a lawyer has come to realize that lawyers learn about procedure, not about law. Mr. Freeman admits that he is not a lawyer, and as much, he has a way of explaining law to us that puts it well within our reach. Consider also that the framers of the Constitution wrote in language simple enough that the people could understand, specifically so that it would not have to be interpreted. So again we find, as in many other areas of life, that "THE BUCK STOPS HERE!" It is we who must take the responsibility for finding and putting to good use the TRUTH. It is we who must claim and defend our God-given rights and our freedom from those who would take from us. It is we who must protect ourselves, our families and our posterity from the inevitable intrusion into our lives by those who live parasitically off the labor, skill and talents of others. To these ends, Mr. Freeman offers a simple, hopeful explanation of our plight and a peaceful method of dealing with it. Please take note that this lecture represents one chapter in the book of his understanding, which he is always refining, expanding, improving. It is, as all bits of wisdom are, a point of departure from which to begin our own journey into understanding, that we all might be able to pass on to others; greater knowledge and hope, and to God: the gift of lives in peace, freedom and praise. "I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, be wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove." INTRODUCTION I was asked to testify in a tax case as an expert witness. After many days of preparation, I felt confident of my research. I spent over 30 minutes presenting many Supreme Court decisions that supported the defendant's position. The prosecution concluded his statements, and to my amazement, the judge told the jury that they could only consider certain facts, none of which were the facts I had given. As soon as the trial was over I went around to the judge's office and he was just coming in through his back door. I said, "Judge, by what authority do you overturn the standing decisions of the United States Supreme Court. You sat on the bench while I read that case law. Now how do you, a District Judge, have authority to overturn decisions of the Supreme Court?" He says. "Oh, those were old decisions." I said, "Those are standing decisions. They have never been overturned. I don't care how old they are; you have no right to overturn a standing decision of the United States Supreme Court in a District Court." PUBLIC LAW V. PUBLIC POLICY He said, "Name any decision of the Supreme Court after 1938 and I'll honor it, but all the decision you read were prior to 1938, and I don't honor those decisions." I asked what happened in 1938. He said, "Prior to 1938, the Supreme Court was dealing with Public Law; since 1938, the Supreme Court has dealt with Public Policy. The charge that Mr. S. was being tried for is a Public Policy Statute, not Public Law, and those Supreme Court cases do not apply to Public Policy." I asked him what happened in 1938? He said that he had already told me too much - he wasn't going to tell me any more. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- Read the rest at the link above.

[FightThePower!]

The police state will move forward under both Republican and Democrat regimes.

[CORedneck]

I do a lot of road traveling like drive cross country several times each year. I know right now, the worst I deal is I get stopped for a traffic violation like speeding or window tint since some states don’t exempt out of state drivers from their tint law.

Now the question, how intrusive are the TSA going to get. Are they going to become a federal equivalent of a highway patrol? Are they going to stick with commercial traffic like truckers and weight stations or actively patrol the roads and stop whoever ? Are they going to go as far as not only doing vehicle searches but also do vehicle inspections such as cite you for equipment infractions ?

Funny thing, I am leaving for a trip this weekend to drive from Colorado to Indiana and then leave my car there and fly back.

[cva66snipe]

Tennessee is highly selective upon whom it enforces laws. For example Oak Ridge Tennessee one of the Crown Jewels for our defense production you will find it too be an illegal alien sanctuary city [unofficially of course} It also likely has the highest Chinese immigrant population of any Tennessee city. Any city along I-40, I-75, I-81, I-24, etc in Tennessee is flooded with illegals. Tennessee Law Enforcement nor the so called Tennessee GOP majority lawmakers care.

If the LEA's can't make money in property forfeitures they are not interested. That is where this new idea is coming in. I'm not bashing the beat officers I'm bashing Chiefs up to county and city mayors as well as state lawmakers on this matter. Anyhring for revenue in Tennessee is the prevailing theme today in our local and state government.

Rigs are worth $100K plus that are road worthy. The agencies don't give a tinker D if you have a bus load of south of the U.S. border residents here illegally. They will ignore that. They will ignore their infractions up to felony over anyone elses. I know of a rental truck several years ago that went from Chattanooga too Jellico filled with illegals. THP even had a BOLO out on the truck. I heard the BOLO out of Chattanooga on a scanner as I was driving up I-75. It nearly hit me in Sweetwater. That BOLO was likely not too catch it even though it ran people almost off the road including myself. But too avoid it and let it go on through too points north I think was the purpose. Get an 18 wheeler with cargo that does not have proper USDA etc markings and Forfieture JACKPOT.

Also by a knownews report or rather several posted over a three day period the next target of the Tennessee LEA's is persons legal and lawfully gained prescriptions they consider to be what you don't need. Does this comment raise anyones eyebrows?

"People are afraid of meth, because everybody doesn't do meth," Newport Police Chief Maurice Shults said. "Everybody doesn't do crack. But everybody's on pills of some kind. Pills come from a doctor. People see that as safe. A doctor gives them out, so they've got to be good." Prescription pills are East Tennessee's 'new crack'

Well yes chief when my doctor whom has treated me and my family for various degrees of ailments over the years writes a script and educates us about it as does my pharmacist then yes I see it safe too take as prescribed. I also consider it to be none of your business as well as long as I break no laws. Who made this police chief our doctor or our doctors second guesser? More government intrusion into all our lives rather than demanding personal responsibility from abusers themselves who will get the drugs either made safely from U.S. licensed and safe manufacturers or illegally from a Mexican or worse drug cartel or Bubba's Lab somewhere in the hood.

Cocke County Tennessee for decades since prohibition has been an illicit alcohol and drug capitol. The history of Cocke law enforcement over the years is also less than flattering. Many have been involved in it themselves from booze to drugs too gambling. More money in it if it's illegal though.

The news about TSA's nest big adventure at the top of this thread came out in Tennessee papers last week. www.knoxnews.com blanketed their web site with prescription drugs abuse articles earlier this week along with the obligatory liberal boo hoo bring on more government regulation comments in them. Anyone think this is just a fluke?

The sad part is almost every major Tennessee towns police chief and sheriff have bought into the more government regulation and more intrussion is what we need policies. We already have a state department of health in Tennessee and several licensing boards to deal with wayward doctors. Yes their is a slim minority doing wrong. Deal with them and stay out of evveryone elses exam room. We have laws for child abuse and neglect. We have laws for driving reckless or under influence.