Posted on 11/01/2011 6:52:47 AM PDT by WXRGina
You believe all Muslims are terrorists?
No. But most all terrorists are Muslim, and I don't hear much condemnation of Muslim terror crimes from the "non-terrorist Muslims, either.
If indeed the premise that 'security' should be 'increased' is valid, then it should fall to each person to increase their 'feeling' of security, e.g. "An armed society is a polite society."
The weak look for others to take care of them. The time is long past to start reclaiming responsibility for ourselves. Arming oneself and learning to use a weapon effectively is the only real security. It also doesn't infringe on other people's freedoms.
Anything else is nanny state Bovine excrement.
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The security increases are not effective and potential terrorists will simply go around them, therefore I do not think there should be increased security where masses of law abiding Americans are searched in violation of their 4th Amendment rights.
So nothing should be done?
What about those that feel there is no need to increase their ‘feeling’ of security? Or those that ‘feel’ we need more? How do you balance the govts response to both of them?
What good does personal weapons do against explosive devices in a mall, or shipping containers at the docks?
“So nothing should be done?”
Way to set up a straw man! No one said nothing should be done. We currently run everyone through metal detectors which no one is objecting to. We do object to the growing police state. The purpose of which isn’t to stop terror, its to take away freedoms of law abiding Americans. Rather than my try to prove a negative, why don’t you tell us how random searches on the highway, patting down six year olds and grandmas, questioning law abiding people at the airport about where they are going, who they are visiting will help us avoid a terrorist attack?
“What about those that feel there is no need to increase their feeling of security? Or those that feel we need more? How do you balance the govts response to both of them?
What good does personal weapons do against explosive devices in a mall, or shipping containers at the docks?”
I think we need to have the TSA pay you a visit at your house so they can search your belongings and computer. You obviously have thought through a potential attack and so you are suspect.
It looks like the TSA confiscated all your paragraph breaks....
I asked that because you never answered #16
Sorry, I meant #20
Good evasive technique
How does port security infringe on my personal rights? It doesn't.
VIPR checkpoints on the highway infringe.
Your strawman is weak.
Are you weak? Do you need a strong nanny watching over you?
What about the guys that are transporting those explosives to the mall? How would anyone know, if not for an informer and vehicle checks?
How many more freedoms are you ready to infringe for your ‘security’?
Get real stuart.
Without freedom you HAVE no security.
Blah blah.
If you advocate the 100% elimination of ‘risk’ you are a loon.
You propose that All vehicles be searched to make they are not carrying explosives to the mall? How often? Every mile? 5 miles? But then, what is to stop me from just detonating the gas tank after driving thru the front doors?
Maybe that is why the FedGov is pushing electric cars. But then, I could use THAT car to drive thru a Kindergarten classroom, so we need 15 mph limiters.
You position yourself close to the liberal line of thinking stuart.
...and without security, you have no freedom. Sounds like a conundrum.
What is your solution to those guys heading towards the mall or their like?
Where did I say anything about advocating anything, much less 100% of risk?
I didn’t propose anything of the sort, did I?
Yes you did. You seem to WANT an all powerful police presence to make sure nothing bad happens.
You worry about bombing a mall. So, then stuart, how do you propose to stop such a thing from happening? Because I can guarantee you, regardless of how difficult you make life, a determined person can amke it happen.
So I ask you again, how much more of your freedom are you willing to sacrifice? How about armed guards in front of homes, denying exit to all except during normal hours and with registered government escort? After all, it would help keep the children safe.
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