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To: ventanax5
I am appalled that my country had anything to do with this grotesque caricature of justice.

You may have felt differently if your kid had been on Pan Am Flight 103 in '88. And a lot of kids were on that flight -- 35 Syracuse students were on their way back from a semester studying abroad. A friend of mine who was attending Syracuse at the time knew a couple of them.

Kaddafi was a terrorist -- a piece of camel turd, just like Bin Laden. And I don't give a rip how he was killed. Would you've minded seeing Mussolini strung up in 1945 without a trial? I certainly wouldn't have. Trials aren't always necessary for justice to be served.

11 posted on 10/24/2011 3:13:52 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Eight year ago the United States made peace with Kaddafi, and put paid to the history between our two countries, including the Lockerbie bombing. The best and the brightest hailed this peace as a wonderful vindication of Bush’s foreign policy. U.S. officials including Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Sen. John McCain, and President Obama had friendly meetings with Kaddafi over the years, speaking of their desire to advance the two countries’ bilateral relationship.

Kaddafi never violated his agreements with us and never became a threat to us or our allies. He spoke in the warmest terms of the United States and of Obama. Yet the instant that people whom we chose to call democrats rose up in rebellion against him, our ideology and what we perceived as our political self-interest required that we side against him. We attacked his country, bombed his military and his government, bombed his residence, drove him from power, and now we have killed him.
I will not become a moral relativist and make the despicable statement, which some on the anti-war right and the European New Right have made in the past, that the U.S. is as immoral as the Soviet Union. Nevertheless, there is now significant and terrible overlap between the behavior of the U.S.S.R and the behavior of the United States. We are not a moral state; we are not a state under the rule of law. We are, as Solzhenitsyn said of the Soviet Union, an ideological state, a state that will do anything, violate any agreement, betray any ally or friend, tell any lie, cover up any truth, in order to advance its ideology and its power that is associated with that ideology.


12 posted on 10/24/2011 3:19:07 PM PDT by ventanax5
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To: Mr. Mojo

I knew a Girl on that flight. 20 yrs old.

I enjoyed the video, sound on.


14 posted on 10/24/2011 3:22:39 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Mr. Mojo

all that is so true Mr Mojo, but doesnt it make you go “hmmm” that just two years ago Senators McCain Granmnesty and Lieberman were in Libya shaking Qadaffi’s hand and Senator Suzy Dits Collins dropped him a curtsy “in a spirit of mutual respect anfd friendship”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYVWT_kDTsU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNfztA1i0ts

And that Qadaffi was allowed to come here to NY and sat two seats from the President of the USA obama and shook HIS hand too?

Osama Bin Laden gets a muslim funeral on the fantail of a US carrier while the Brits (who don’t even get oil from Libya) blow Qadaffis’ convoy to bits as he runs away, and drive him into the arms of a screaming demonic lynch mob who are our new “allies”... and obama congratulates the “people of Libya” on this step toward democracy?

Really, now? Is that what democracy is? Can the Tea Party get some quality time with Nancy Pelosi then (sarc)?

WTF is going on here?


27 posted on 10/24/2011 4:00:51 PM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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