[Haiku Guy]

Not only is Tesla a complete boondoggle and a sinkhole of money, it is also occupying the space in the market where a real electric car company should be.

Tesla is sucking up all of the money, and producing nothing but press releases and vaporware. If Tesla did not exist, that money might actually go to a real company with a real business plan to produce real electric automobiles. But none of that can happen as long as Tesla dominates this segment.

[taildragger]

Tesla is sucking up all of the money, and producing nothing but press releases and vaporware. If Tesla did not exist, that money might actually go to a real company with a real business plan to produce real electric automobiles.

You mean like Ford? :-), See this image below, this is the electric motor in the up coming Electric Ford Focus....

What you are looking at here is a Electric Drive motor that with out a CVT ( Continously Variable Transmission), by playing with the sine wave or whatever, that acts like a CVT.

This has only been reported here, and in a conversation with a Ford Rep @ the NAIAS in Jan of 011' when they described what they were doing to a EE that I was with, so it is not company top secret.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/11/ford-focus-electric-motor-extracted-split-asunder-coppery-guts/

Does anyone get this? Does this do the following? ( we don't know yet..)

* Does this eliminate the transmission other than a FWD knuckle.
* Does this make a Volt Series type Hybrid more viable.
* Does this truly open the door to a true electric - hybrid drivetrain.

BTW a Hybrid gnome on a high profile program once told me the ultimate transmission for an electric would be a CVT. Combine this with how much more energy they are recovering with regenerative braking, and maybe I can finally embrace these electrified drivetrains...