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To: jazusamo
0bungles knew that Holder didn't know before Holder knew that he didn't know.

How Did Obama Know About "Fast and Furious" Before Holder?

And then there is this...

"Grenade-walking" part of "Gunwalker" scandal

And this...

Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas

Phil Jordan, a former CIA operative and one-time leader of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center, claims that the Obama administration is running guns to the violent Zetas cartel through the direct commercial sale of military grade weapons:

Jordan, who served as director of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center in 1995, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons purchased in the Dallas area through El Paso.

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“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” Plumlee said. Other weapons found include grenade launchers, assault rifles, handguns and military gear including night-vision goggles and body armor.

More about State Department involvement...

— has sources claiming “Obama’s man in the State Department,” (former) Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg, was the State Department operative who helped Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Department of Justice Deputy Attorney General David Ogden formulate the strategy that led to the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious.

Steinberg took office as Deputy Secretary of State on January 28, 2009

A little more than two years later, it was announced that Steinberg's time in the Obama State Department was over. From the New York Times, 30 March 2011:

Mrs. Clinton heaped praise on Mr. Steinberg, describing him as an “indispensable” partner. “On every foreign policy challenge, big and small, he has helped formulate our policy and oversee its execution,” she wrote. Mr. Steinberg, she said, played “Oscar to Jack Lew’s Felix,” referring to Jacob J. Lew, her other deputy, who left earlier this year to become Mr. Obama’s budget director.

Want to read even more about State Dept. involvement? ...

Sipsey Street Exclusive: "In at the beginning." The State Department & the Gunwalker Scandal.

Which comes to this...

Grassley to ask for resignation of highest-level person who signed off on Fast and Furious

Which just doesn't seem like enough.

3 posted on 10/15/2011 12:31:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
Which just doesn't seem like enough.

It's definitely not enough. Many people were murdered due to these arms getting into the wrong hands.

People should be prosecuted and go to a federal pen when and if convicted and it looks like Holder and should be one of them.

5 posted on 10/15/2011 12:37:11 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: TigersEye
Which just doesn't seem like enough.

No, but that's where it starts. This administration won't prosecute any of its members because they would start singing, IMHO. It will have to be the next. They could extradite them to Mexico, if they don't want to prosecute.

18 posted on 10/18/2011 6:05:11 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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