Posted on 10/09/2011 10:21:19 AM PDT by orthodoxyordeath
After watching the last two debates and watching his recent interview on “The View”, I've come to realize who I want to represent me as the candidate for the Republican nomination. While his chances are a bit shot due to the establishment’s choice Mitt Romney, I think Herman Cain has a lot to offer to the American people. I believe that Cain's experience as a businessman, his stance on social issues, and his 9-9-9 plan make him a formidable and truly Conservative candidate. Not to mention, this guy is incredibly humorous and let's face it, we are in dire need of a relaxed, levelheaded, comical president (Who actually does something).
Cain's extensive experience as a businessman would be crucial to reviving the American economy. As a man who has worked as CEO of “Godfather’s Pizza” and been Vice President of capitalist colossals such as “Pillsbury” and “Burger King”, this man knows how to run a business or two. Now, I know what Romney supporters would be rebutting with; Romney is a businessman too! That is true, but Romney hasn’t come close to working with companies Americans are familiar with, or anything truly capitalistic. With the Obama administration’s lack of business experience within high-ranking positions, this fact will prove to be incredibly imperative in the next election.
Herman Cain is easily relatable to the average American, not only because of his extensive business resume, but also because he has never held a public office. He also claims that he has no national name ID or “kajillion dollars” like every other candidate has. This works incredibly well in the favor of Cain, as most Americans are sick and tired of politicians receiving the nomination, winning, and turning everything into one big giant mess. As we have clearly seen in the past three years, holding a public office gives you little to no true experience in running a country.
Now, here is where Conservatives would shriek in delight and the average American independent would be turned away in disgust. Cain is a remarkably strong Conservative in his stance on social issues. Cain is an avid decrier of the repeal of the Don’t Ask, Don’t tell law and of gay marriage as a whole. Since the favorability of gay marriage has skyrocketed in the past few years, this would prove to be an obstacle to any Conservative candidate. We’d also have to include Cain’s stance on abortion, as he is completely against it, even in rape circumstances. These opinions on social issues are great within the Conservative fan base, but would hurt Cain at the national level. While these opinions prove to be a challenge, Cain explained during his interview on “The View” that he would stay true to the constitution in his role as president and would rule with his social issues put aside. I hope for the best in this section of his campaign.
Finally, the ever controversial 9-9-9 tax. Now, before I even begin to speak about this, let me throw a disclaimer in; I haven’t dissected every single detail of this plan and nor am I anywhere near an expert on taxes. From what I understand, I believe this plan truly has a chance. A nine percent tax on corporate income, a nine percent tax on personal income and a nine percent national sales tax may make Conservatives boo and hiss, but let’s be real here, how else are we going to get this country back on track? Our current tax code is in dire need of remodeling and drastic measures have to be taken to get America out of this black hole we’ve been sucked into. And hey, I’d think Cain might know what he is talking about considering all the business experiences he’s had.
Oh, and before I wrap this up, let me throw in a bit of food for thought for you all. As we have repeatedly heard from the left for decades, Conservatives are nothing but racist, cruel people. If we were to elect Cain as our nominee, any kind of racism nonsense would be completely thrown aside. An Obama vs. Cain election would be strictly policy, no favoring of the “black president”. We are in urgent need of this, considering virtually every black vote went to Obama in the last election simply because of his racial background.
These points are why I’m most likely going to be throwing my support to Herman Cain as the 2012 Republican nominee. What are your thoughts?
I have no problems with tax cuts for basing your business in high unemployment places. It’s probably the best thing Government can do in terms of reducing unemployment.
Making a living, having a job, earning a wage - that is probably the best way to make someone conservative. The problem we face is a permanent 20% who have no (or no stable) job and rely upon Government handouts. Get them jobs, get them off the Government teat, and start building up those people.
And do it only with tax cuts - no benefits, no payments, no loans, no cash out. Business funds the cost of the entire operations, and if they make a profit - they’ll pay less taxes (and less taxes is always good).
Having a place like Detroit, or Memphis, or Yuma, or Stockton with people earning their own way seems to be a good thing. A way to grow conservatives via encouraging conservative behavior.
Total waste of time. The inner city is dead.
I don’t believe throwing good money after bad is a conservative idea.
You have to forgive me for being old, but that's just asking for a "you ain't seen nothing' yet" response.
Gee, that’s twice you have called me a liar. Where is my lie about Cain? I have only been asking for verification?
Sleazy Posts?
Asking for information?
I thought that’s what we were supposed to do. Seems like things may be taking a rather dogmatic turn here.
What you are doing is called a “Whisper campaign” You are making up lies to accuse the other campaing of. Then when you lie is prove a lie, you merely move on to a new lie.
It is the worst sort of gutless political tactics.
As pointed out to you the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion Bearing False Witness is still a sin.
See, that’s where you don’t understand the economics of the plan...
It’s NOT throwing good money after bad - it’s ONLY giving a tax cut IF a private business invests in the area AND makes a profit. In other words, it only rewards success, but does not subsidize any losing proposition. And it’s not a hand-out.
If a business thinks they can succeed in a high-unemployment area, and they invest AND they actually do succeed - then the Government would recognize that success by letting the business keep more of its money.
If the business fails? Nothing paid out from the Government. No money thrown at the failure.
What lies have I made up?
I came looking for information, but all I have found is adulation. I have a link to a speech he made to Life Issues and I have a statement he made on The View.
I am no closer to being able to vote for Cain than when I came, but I am not going to spend the rest of a beautiful Sunday being called a liar. Farewell and be at peace.
Maybe it’s the tone of your posts? Rather sanctimonious and snotty, as if YOU have all the answers already... “prove this” and “prove that”...just google him and read up on him and quit asking your pissy little questions.
That is all well and good, but that it not what you wrote earlier. You wrote that nobody seems to know who he is or why they like him, and that is a fairly common comment around here in the past few days. It is starting to appear that some folks want to marginalize Cain by painting his support as blind and/or shallow.
"Believe it or not, I am not sold on Perry, but I am not willing to vote for Cain ‘on faith’."
There is absolutely no reason for me to believe you or not about being sold on Perry ... I didn't mention Perry or respond to anything that you wrote about Perry. I haven't the first clue what you think about Perry.
Herman Cain is a good man and I am supporting him fully at this point in the race. However, I'm not going to be one of the freepers that abuses everybody that doesn't support him.
Lord knows that the Guiliani and Palin followers on this forum did their candidates more harm than good with their attacks. After first being really high on Palin, I cooled-off significantly after enduring attack after attack for simply trying to explore and question her record. That wasn't Palin's fault, but she either benefited or suffered from the actions of rabid fans.
Hope that whomever you choose to back in the primaries is a solid conservative. That is what would benefit the country right now and in the long run.
I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on lying over this, because you may just be misremembering, but I recorded the View appearance, and I’ve watched it twice. He did NOT say that he would put his social positions aside to govern. He said he would not govern based on his opinions, but rather on the Constitution. So unless you’re saying that his social positions are Constitutionally indefensible (in which case, why do you call yourself a conservative?), then you’ve completely misconstrued what he stated.
Cain, Bachmann, then, if we have to, Perry. There is no other choice. Bachmann is right on all the issues, but has faltered lately. Perry is right enough to support, but wrong on some key issues, like illegals. Romney would be a train wreck, McCain II. He is a complete phony, and it would be the 6th straight Establishment RINO Republican to get the nod. We cannot allow that, or the party will be demoralized and Obama may win.
Not intentionally I assure you. I was merely repeating what was offered in post #5. I personally do not watch that show.
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