Posted on 10/07/2011 3:33:58 PM PDT by JOHN W K
"Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. It is not someone's fault if they succeeded, it is someone's fault if they failed,"___ Herman Cain
Of course Herman Cain, former ringleader of the Federal Reserve would say something like that, especially when the Federal Reserve and its un-constitutional money monopoly is in defiance of our founding fathers expressed intentions, and is used to plunder what America‘s Businesses and labor have produced.
And what did Daniel Webster have to say regarding working people: "Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man's field by the sweat of the poor man's brow."
Was Mr. Webster making something up? I think not as our founders were pretty much in agreement!
During the federal convention which framed our Constitution our founding fathers specifically voted to forbid a power to Congress to “emit bills on the credit of the united States” , and intentionally forbid any notes being made a legal tender! See: The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16
Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out "and emit bills on the credit of the U. States"-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.
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Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.
Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words "(and emit bills")
On the motion for striking out N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.
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Our founding fathers were well aware of the historical thievery which takes place when notes of any kind are made a LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. And that is why they intentionally voted to forbid any notes being made a legal tender which, if allowed, would create an evil money monopoly and force businesses and individuals to accept worthless script in payment of debt, even if they were not “safe and proper”.
To bad our “conservative’ talk show hosts avoid talking about two specific key issues which our founding fathers addressed in great detail and provided specific rules in our Constitution to encourage and protect a free market system and prevent Congress‘s power of taxation being abused. The two key issues which our “conservative” talk show hosts fail to address are:
Federal Reserve Notes having been made a LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE in defiance of our Constitution’s legislative intent, and our Constitution’s “fair share formulas” for both taxation and representation:
FAIR SHARE OF EACH STATE’S REPRESENTATIVES
State`s Pop.
___________ X House size (435) = State`s No.of Reps.
U.S. pop.
FAIR SHARE OF ANY GENERAL TAX LAID AMONG THE STATES
State`s Pop.
_________ X SUM NEEDED = STATE`S SHARE OF DIRECT TAX
U.S. pop.
A few days ago Glenn Beck had Herman Cain on his radio show promoting his 9-9-9 plan, which includes a “national sales tax’, in addition to a 9 percent tax on corporate profits, and a 9 percent tax upon working people’s earned wages.
Glenn Beck was all in favor of the addition of Cain’s new 9 percent national sales tax to feed the beast in Washington, and didn’t even bother to play devil’s advocate and question its constitutionality, or the rational behind adding a new tax to Congress‘ menu while keeping existing taxes on incomes alive.
This is a typical example of our so called “conservative” talk show hosts avoiding two of the most important issues addressed by our Founding Fathers.
Why is it that our “conservative” talk show hosts will not talk about the unconstitutionality of federal reserve notes being made a legal tender for all debts public and private, nor talk about the rule of apportionment and how our founder’s agreed it would apply to any general tax laid among the States? Has Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Schnitt, Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, Bill O'rielly, Mike Gallagher, Lee Rodgers, Neal Boortz. Tammy Bruce, Monica Crowley, etc., ever mentioned our Constitution‘s fair share formula for any general tax laid among the States or federal reserve notes having been made a legal tender in defiance of our founders expressed intentions?
JWK
History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.___ James Madison
VIVA LA MOCKUPATION!!!
I am thinking of making pop corn and waiting for JimRob to show up!
Sounds to me like select breaks for specific people.
Apparently the original poster has a history with the Ron Paul camp.
I have serious issues with Ron Paul and consider him a fringer.
Still, I think Herman Cains fiscal plan has serious flaws.
Nah, it's those damned Jewish plumbers Obama talked about!
I feel a lot better when I see that both Art Laffer and Steve Forbes say the plan is strong, both in the fact it is a major net cut in taxes, but it also eliminates masses of bureaucracy involved in maintaining the current system- and it is a good step towards either a flat tax or fair tax.. you can’t make the latter happen over night but what you can do is take, as Reagan often said, an incremental approach.
Be truthful, you have problems with Cain mostly because he’s stealing Perry’s thunder.
If it’s good enough for Teve Torbes, it’s good enough for me.
I have a few issues with the plan.
It would give me an effective tax rate of 17 3/4% on necessity’s, housing, food and drink.
That COULD be OK, if we had no capital gains and no Federal income tax, but I really get scared that Cain specifically calls on “THE” super committee to do the right thing.
It all hinges on 12 hand select ***holes
I do think Herman should get the same level of vetting.
Don’t you?
Have I told any lies about the man?
I am only asking questions.
What?
That 17.75% sounds like a lot until you realize that would replace about 17-38% income tax (depending on your bracket) and 30% corporate tax that is written into the cost of goods you buy. It would also eliminate the massive expenses incurred by corporations producing those goods and services that are spent in trying to keep up with the tax code.
Is this another brain dead Ron Paul douchebag?
He has been, heck, he has been getting an anal probe. (just like most of the candidates on our side..)
...and yet we still can’t see Obama’s Senate voting records.
Just wanted to make it clear just who you were and that you have your own agenda. Why don’t you want everyone to know that you are a Perry backer?
Turn your head and cough......(I think thats what they say):O)
Cain is hanging his star in these ***holes.
Do you honestly trust them?
Forgot the Foaming Gibberish Alert warning
Oy vey!
If Cain wins, these a**holes will be out of a job or at least back to their normal congressional jobs.
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