Fake conservative talk show hosts embrace Herman Cain!

10-7-11 | JOHN W K

[JOHN W K]

"Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. It is not someone's fault if they succeeded, it is someone's fault if they failed,"___ Herman Cain

Of course Herman Cain, former ringleader of the Federal Reserve would say something like that, especially when the Federal Reserve and its un-constitutional money monopoly is in defiance of our founding fathers expressed intentions, and is used to plunder what America‘s Businesses and labor have produced.

And what did Daniel Webster have to say regarding working people: "Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man's field by the sweat of the poor man's brow."

Was Mr. Webster making something up? I think not as our founders were pretty much in agreement!

During the federal convention which framed our Constitution our founding fathers specifically voted to forbid a power to Congress to “emit bills on the credit of the united States” , and intentionally forbid any notes being made a legal tender! See: The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out "and emit bills on the credit of the U. States"-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.

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Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.

Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words "(and emit bills")

On the motion for striking out N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.

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Our founding fathers were well aware of the historical thievery which takes place when notes of any kind are made a LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. And that is why they intentionally voted to forbid any notes being made a legal tender which, if allowed, would create an evil money monopoly and force businesses and individuals to accept worthless script in payment of debt, even if they were not “safe and proper”.

To bad our “conservative’ talk show hosts avoid talking about two specific key issues which our founding fathers addressed in great detail and provided specific rules in our Constitution to encourage and protect a free market system and prevent Congress‘s power of taxation being abused. The two key issues which our “conservative” talk show hosts fail to address are:

Federal Reserve Notes having been made a LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE in defiance of our Constitution’s legislative intent, and our Constitution’s “fair share formulas” for both taxation and representation:

FAIR SHARE OF EACH STATE’S REPRESENTATIVES

State`s Pop.
___________ X House size (435) = State`s No.of Reps.
U.S. pop.

FAIR SHARE OF ANY GENERAL TAX LAID AMONG THE STATES

State`s Pop.
_________ X SUM NEEDED = STATE`S SHARE OF DIRECT TAX
U.S. pop.

A few days ago Glenn Beck had Herman Cain on his radio show promoting his 9-9-9 plan, which includes a “national sales tax’, in addition to a 9 percent tax on corporate profits, and a 9 percent tax upon working people’s earned wages.

Glenn Beck was all in favor of the addition of Cain’s new 9 percent national sales tax to feed the beast in Washington, and didn’t even bother to play devil’s advocate and question its constitutionality, or the rational behind adding a new tax to Congress‘ menu while keeping existing taxes on incomes alive.

This is a typical example of our so called “conservative” talk show hosts avoiding two of the most important issues addressed by our Founding Fathers.

Why is it that our “conservative” talk show hosts will not talk about the unconstitutionality of federal reserve notes being made a legal tender for all debts public and private, nor talk about the rule of apportionment and how our founder’s agreed it would apply to any general tax laid among the States? Has Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Schnitt, Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, Bill O'rielly, Mike Gallagher, Lee Rodgers, Neal Boortz. Tammy Bruce, Monica Crowley, etc., ever mentioned our Constitution‘s fair share formula for any general tax laid among the States or federal reserve notes having been made a legal tender in defiance of our founders expressed intentions?

JWK

History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.___ James Madison

[jimjohn]

So I take it if cain gets the nod, you’ll be voting for obama?

[JOHN W K]

There is a big difference between the nut ball “Occupy Wall Street Crowd” and those in America who see the Federal Reserve sucking the life our of America's businesses and working class people.

On your breaks at the firehouse, do like I did, study the founding of our Nation, and start with Madison's Notes.

JWK

History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance. James Madison

[JOHN W K]

Someone who will support and defend the documented intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was adopted!

JWK

Those who reject abiding by the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was agree to, as those intentions and beliefs may be documented from historical records, wish to remove the anchor and rudder of our constitutional system so they may then be free to “interpret” the Constitution to mean whatever they wish it to mean.

[JOHN W K]

When you find that I have ever supported Ron Paul, post that information here. If you do a little research, you will find I have a number of major problems with Ron Paul, especially his foreign policy and capitulation to our sworn enemies.

JWK

[JOHN W K]

This is absolutely amazing. Not one comment in reference to the specific issues I have raised. But a constant “attack the messenger”, and guilt by an asserted association to Ron Paul. JWK

[MNJohnnie]

I do think Herman should get the same level of vetting. Don’t you?

Actually Perry should get SOME vetting rather then the mindless adoration he has been getting around here What is Perry's plan on Taxes? On Energy production? On Job Creation? On reducing the size and scope of the Federal Government? PLANS and IDEAS not slogans or more hymns about what he did as Gov of Texas

[JOHN W K]

Yup! He’s talking about unequal law, favoritism cloaked under the guise of national necessity. JWK

[MNJohnnie]

Because you have not raised a single issue. Ignorant slogans and bile laced tirades are not issues.

Try actually posting a rational fact based post instead of an emotion based ignorant tirade and people will take you seriously around here.

[smokingfrog]

LOL!

[Kartographer]

"Cain is closer to the Ben Bernanke than any other candidate."

So what happened to your open mindedness about Cain? You are more full of it than a feed lot! So tell us in as much detail as Cains 999 plan Perry's plan of the economy? You can't because he don't have one. As far as the economy in Texas tell me why do Perry backer plead about bad stuff in Texas isn't Perry fault because we don't understand that the Texas Constitution makes the Governor weak, yet he gets all the credit for the good stuff. Ain't buying it.

[JOHN W K]

Well, why should the same not apply to our entire nation? Government should not be in the business of picking winners and losers. Get the freaken federal government out of the States and respect the Tenth Amendment! Read my lips Herman Cain supporters. No freaken new taxes! JWK Our federal government personifies a living creature, a predator: it grows, it multiplies, it protects itself, it feeds on those it can defeat, and does everything to expand its powers and flourish, even at the expense of enslaving a nation’s entire population.

[mnehring]

That would be congress, the Federal Reserve (DC Board of Governors) is only a toll booth but both the US Treasury Secretary and Congress are the enablers. (BTW, the Regional Federal Reserve banks aren’t the same as the Federal Reserve Board of Governors who gave out those loans so quit lying about the connection beyond the word Fed in the name).

[Kartographer]

"Mr Cain has some vetting to be done.

I like the guy. I just think his plan is weak."

Your own post #83 shows that you are lying.

[JOHN W K]

Really? And why would you think I support Ron Paul?

JWK

[smokingfrog]

I don’t know, but it sounds like some big government program.

http://www.hud.gov/offices/cpd/economicdevelopment/programs/rc/index.cfm

[Kartographer]

Johnnie why so HEARTLESS? ;-)

[fireman15]

OK. Thanks for the advice.

[mnehring]

Grow up.. Cain’s plan is a net reduction in both taxes as well as the tax collection bureauracy monster. It is a logical step, unlike coffee-shop philosophers like Paul who spout utopia but have no real plan or ability to get there.

Cain is a businessman who is used to working with project plans that involves logical, measurable steps and is judged on results.

Paul is a politician who is judged by what words he uses every four years but people hope they never judge him by his results- which are none.

A businessman with a success rate empowering the private sector versus a career politician who you pimp who has zero success rate in what he preaches... hmmm... not exactly a tough call.

[mnehring]

And why would you think I support Ron Paul?

Usually I would make a snarkey joke here but I think I can seriously say it is paranoia brought on by THC use. We've all seen what you post on other forums, it isn't to bright to copy and paste the same phrases. We see how you mock Christians with the "999 inverted is 666 comments will get them" (links posted above)... Crap like this is exactly why Paul is mocked versus just dismissed as another old career politician.

[JOHN W K]

So, our founding fathers words are gibberish?

JWK