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To: toma29

I’m curious as to what the reaction would have been had it been Bill Gates instead of Steve Jobs?

Both were giants, regardless of which side you were on in the PC vs. Mac debate, certainly Bill Gates would have deserved all of the kudos that Steve Jobs received.

But somehow I don’t think that would have been the case.


2 posted on 10/07/2011 1:32:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“Both were giants, regardless of which side you were on in the PC vs. Mac debate, certainly Bill Gates would have deserved all of the kudos that Steve Jobs received.

But somehow I don’t think that would have been the case.”

Good point. I suppose it’s in part because the gadgets Gates invented didn’t become objects of idolatry by millions of shallow worshippers.


6 posted on 10/07/2011 1:37:26 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: dfwgator
I’m curious as to what the reaction would have been had it been Bill Gates instead of Steve Jobs?

Good question (and your answer too.)

Gates didn't (doesn't) have the drive. Look, he took the money and ran to Africa carrying mosquito nets, another guilt ridden liberal. Jobs if he lived and by some odd chance got fired again from Apple, would have gone on to start another company, right? Gates didn't so much conceptualize and invent as he stole. Gates gave us deeply flawed products, and over engineered products (Office). Gates was (isn't no more) a geek, while Jobs was, as many have observed, an artist.

29 posted on 10/07/2011 1:49:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: dfwgator

Cancer is a disease of personality..deep buried anger that transforms some of the bodies cell into the demonic creatures minions which inhabit that body. That is why so much rage and sexuality in our society corresponds with huge numbers of deaths by cancer. It is not God’s judgment, but the devils with people going along with it and not seeing the source. The fhu.com has the remedy...Be still exercise has helped cure many people.


34 posted on 10/07/2011 1:54:00 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: dfwgator

“I’m curious as to what the reaction would have been had it been Bill Gates instead of Steve Jobs?”

Much more of a shrug, since BG hasn’t been (take your pick) either centrally involved at MS for years, or has been quite ineffective at finding hit products, which Apple has been pumping our regularly.

“Both were giants, regardless of which side you were on in the PC vs. Mac debate, certainly Bill Gates would have deserved all of the kudos that Steve Jobs received.”

Well, one deserves the past tense, and not the one that just passed away.

BG doesn’t deserve the same respect at all. His family connections were central to his success. Not so with SJ. His company has been feeding off Apple technology for decades. Apple has literally been MS’ research division. Further, MS success over the last several years has not even remotely compared to Apple’s. Apple is now the #1 company on the US stock market, where Microsoft has lost its once premier position and is way down in the middle of the pack.

I hope this clears things up for you. :-)


106 posted on 10/07/2011 6:01:10 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Cain '12 - Take Back America!!!)
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To: dfwgator
"Steve Jobs Was Not God"

I also meant to make the point that this headline (and thought) are both ridiculous.

Steve Jobs certainly never claimed to be God (or a god), and in fact was rather humble all things considered. I strongly suggest anyone desiring to learn more about Steve Jobs the man listen to Steve Jobs' 2005 Stanford commencement speech. It is excellent, and should give some food for thought.

107 posted on 10/07/2011 6:05:57 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Cain '12 - Take Back America!!!)
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To: dfwgator
Gates is likely to get a similar amount of attention -- he's the world's richest person (most of the time), and his history of philanthropy is noteworthy all by itself. Gates' success in business is noteworthy regardless of what you think of the quality or innovation of his products. No one much remembers how Carnegie made his fortune, but they remember the libraries and the university.

I think what people are losing sight of is that Jobs' influence extends far beyond Apple's own products. Microsoft was not working on a GUI until they saw prototype Macs. MP3 was a fringe technology before the iPod. No one paid for it (there was no way to) before iTunes. Smartphones before the iPhone had tiny screens, WAP browsers and styluses. Tablets before the iPad had desktop operating systems, and again with the damn styluses.

In each of those cases, the Apple product drew a sharp line across the calendar, dividing the history of those technologies into the epochs before and after. When Henry Ford decided to mass-produce an affordable car for the middle class, that affected everyone who later bought a Chevy. Others follow, some more successfully in terms of units shipped and money made, but we tend to remember those who blaze the trails.

113 posted on 10/07/2011 6:27:57 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: dfwgator

Job’s products influenced me more than Gates’. I basically owe my career to Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs, because their early products (IIe) got me interested in computers and programming.

I only use Gates’ products because that is what my company requires me to use. At home I use OS X and Linux, and I’d use them at work if I could.

But I respect MS and Bill Gates, and I will definitely give him kudos.


115 posted on 10/07/2011 6:39:09 PM PDT by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: dfwgator

Gates’ products never registered with their users on a personal level. That’s why there likely won’t be this sort of response when Gates dies.


152 posted on 10/08/2011 12:21:54 PM PDT by Terpfen (Any candidate is better than Obama. Any.)
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