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To: Meet the New Boss

It’s a different argument entirely than what you claim. The argument I’m making in this comment is that EVERYBODY supports “strategic fencing”, but the “fence the border” crowd simply refuses to admit it, as you refuse to admit it here, even while you argue for it.

You call fencing ANY part of the beach “one of the STUPIDEST straw men”. So you agree that nobody wants to do it. But it is a border. And you said you wanted to fence the ENTIRE border. But you don’t, and think it’s stupid to waste our time and inconvenience ourselves building a fence 20 feet from the Mexican border, because that 20 feet is along the gulf coast, even though you don’t need a BOAT, you can just walk around the edge of the fence.

This proves that you are for “strategic fencing” — fencing where it MAKES SENSE. You clearly believe that it “makes sense” to build a fence along the ENTIRE Rio Grande. But you think it would be STUPID to build ANY fence along the beaches. Rick Perry believes it would “make sense” to build a fence across the parts of the border where illegals ACTUALLY CROSS, but not on the parts of the border where there is no crossing and people use the border.

So you and Rick Perry are both using the same thought process, just coming to a different conclusion.

But rather than seriously arguing why you think any particular place Perry says “no fence” would be better with a fence, you call him “Open Borders”. And if I call YOU “Open Borders” because you won’t build a fence along the gulf of Mexico, you call it a “straw man” and “stupid” and won’t defend your opinion.

The REAL “straw man” argument is your lame attempt to compare walking along 100 yards of beach with “building rocket ships”. ANY person could walk around the edge of the fence. It’s trivial. Boats are also trivial, it’s why we have a COAST GUARD (boots on the ground) guarding our territorial waters and watching for smugglers.

Note that the answer to the gulf coast is “boots on the ‘ground’”, exactly the same answer Perry is giving for parts of the land border.

Nice try with the deflection though, mr. “I refuse to fence off the beaches because that’s a STUPID idea that would be a waste of time and money because they could fly in on rocket ships”.


67 posted on 10/06/2011 7:41:24 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

All of your points are good. However, Rick Perry did go to Israel several times to study the way they use their fence.
Its worked for them and possibly it could help in several stategic spots just not on the entire border of the US.

Its almost is a moot point, however, since the fence will never be built.

The red meat guys are being snookered. No way am I advocatig builing a fence across the border because its never going to happen amd it would be a waste of money.


68 posted on 10/06/2011 8:02:56 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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