To: bullypulpit
I say we get rid of all fences surrounding prisons and just put more boots on the ground.
2 posted on
10/06/2011 1:55:04 AM PDT by
ari-freedom
(We need a Steve Jobs Plan: encourage innovation, not regulation.)
To: bullypulpit
Horrible piece of writing if the purpose was to defend Perry as a defender of strong borders
the title alone will further kill the candidate among conservatives. It is all they need to read.
Was this intended as a defense (weak) or as a hit piece? (effective)
Defense defense defense = weak weak weak
Rick Perry we hardly knew ye
3 posted on
10/06/2011 1:55:37 AM PDT by
silverleaf
(Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
To: bullypulpit
No fence? In 3 years, when the cartels rule Meh-i-co, Texans will be screaming for a fence and a moat with alligators.
4 posted on
10/06/2011 1:58:28 AM PDT by
exit82
(Democrats are the enemies of freedom.)
To: bullypulpit
building a fence wouldn’t work to keep illegal aliens out, that’s why Rick Perry prefers to give special tuition benefits and paths to citizenship to illegal aliens, because that’s a plan that works. Rick perry gets results. I can hardly wait.
7 posted on
10/06/2011 2:06:19 AM PDT by
RC one
(Voting isn't a simple act of civic duty anymore, it's a complex act of civil war.)
To: bullypulpit
Perry was asked in New Hampshire by the Granite State GOP why he was opposed to a fence on the Mexican border.
He gave two reasons. Perry said: “The fact is, it’s 1,200 miles from Brownsville to El Paso. Two things: How long you think it would take to build that? And then if you build a 30-foot wall from El Paso to Brownsville, the 35-foot ladder business gets real good.”
1. It would take too long to build! Yes, this was really his answer! Apparently when Rick thinks about how to build a fence, he imagines starting at Brownsville and then slowly working your way to Tijuana! LOL.
2. His second answer: if we build a 30-ft fence, it will just spur sales of 35-ft ladders!
Yep, that’s right, forget the fence, because someone somewhere might try to climb it with a 35-ft ladder. Pregnant women, small children, what have you, are going to be scampering over that 30-ft fence with those 35-ft ladders just like they were stepping over a crack in the sidewalk. ROFL!
If fences are useless, Senor Rico, why not get rid of the fences at Texas jails and prisons? Why not get rid of fences at military installations in Texas?
After all, anyone with a ladder renders these fences worthless, according to Ricky. Never mind that where a modern fencing system has been installed on the border, such as in San Diego County, it has radically reduced crossings.
Oh wait, Senor Ricky would allow a fence to be built in some “strategic” areas of “some” urban areas. (Gotta make sure that fence doesn’t inconvenience his big $$ backers’ ability to get that cheap Mexican labor across the border!)
El Rico’s answer? Boots on the ground! A border with no fence, but boots on the ground! With no fence/patrol road as a force multipler to monitor the border, we would need far more of these “boots on the ground” just to pick up the trash after the illegals are long gone by the time the “boots on the ground” get there! (But that’s just the point, isn’t it, Senor Rick?)
And by the way, El Rico isn’t only opposed to a fence on the Rio Grande, he is opposed to a fence all the way to San Diego! No fence anywhere, except those “strategic” parts of “some” urban areas.
Oh, but the ranchers on the river! Whatever will the ranchers on the river do without being able to water their cattle in the deep, clean waters (okay, not so deep, not so clean) of the Rio Grande?
How heartless of you gringos to put the sovereignty and security interests of 310 million Americans ahead of the cattle ranchers of the Rio Grande!
But my favorite objection by the open borders anti-fence apologists?
The little butterflies!
We should not build the fence because dust from construction could coat leaves of trees on which butterflies feed!
“truck traffic has sent clouds of dust into the air, coating the tree’s leaves, which provide food for the...rare Thorne’s hairstreak butterfly.”
http://borderwallinthenews.blogspot.com/2010/01/border-fence-smugglers-gulch-project.html
Oh, the poor little butterflies! (Those cruel fence-builders!)
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35 posted on
10/06/2011 3:25:23 AM PDT by
bcsco
(A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
To: bullypulpit
I wonder why there is a fence around the Texas Governor’s Mansion.
44 posted on
10/06/2011 3:55:10 AM PDT by
tdscpa
To: bullypulpit
A Department of Homeland Security Border Patrol Agent in Del Rio, Texas once told me, "A fence only slows them down enough so that we have a chance to catch them. It does not stop them."It is a deterrent and it is effective in stopping people from just walking across the border.
It is common sense.
Walk out in your back yard, if your neighbor {or you} have a small, short 4'-6' fence around the property is it easier to get over than just walking where there is no fence?
Now try getting over a 20' chain link electric fence with razor wire on the top. How about going under? Need a tunnel, and if we have boots on the ground, won't they be watching activity near both sides of the fence?
To: bullypulpit
Perry wants the border sealed. Cain wants the border sealed. They have a different outlooks as to how.
If a huge, expensive fence is contructed, boots on the ground will still be needed to man it. Probably just as many as if the fence wasn’t there. In the end, the fence would keep no one out but the guys and the drones would.
The “tell um what they want to hear crowd” know that a fence will never be constructed by the US government and they are very dishonest to feed you that red meat.
I know how much you guys hate Perry. It seems more so than you hate Romney. The only way Cain’s name is goig to appear on the ballot is if its alongside Mitt Romney’s as his VP and you guys will wind up going for Romney.
In the end you will never get your fence and you will wind up with Mitt Romney or Obama as your president more than likely Obama.
To: bullypulpit
Yesterday I almost posted a vanity listing all the complaints about Rick Perry, with a schedule for what days and times they should be re-posted. I thought it might help keep the Perry-bashing more organized.
Then I deleted it, because I figured with Sarah Palin out, people would stop wasting their time re-posting the same stupid non-stories again and again and again and again and again.
Apparently, I was wrong.
Perry supports a comprehensive border security solution. It includes fences where they will help, boots on the ground, electronic surveillance, and a system to track legal immigrants to ensure they leave when their visa or work permit expires.
People like to say “fences work” and point to Israel. But Israel’s fence only works because they also have an army defending their border. And even Israel didn’t build a fence around their entire country, just in the places where they had the most trouble.
NumbersUsa rated Rick Perry “Good” on Border Security. They said he’d be “excellent” if he would publish his border security plan.
Perry’s problem isn’t border security, it’s his inability so far to explain his solid, conservative positions on these issues in a way that breaks through the stupid sound bites of his opponents. “Build the Fence” is a chant, not a policy.
I urge anybody who thinks a full-border fence in Texas makes sense to pull up Google maps, start at the gulf coast, and walk your way through the first hundred miles of “border”.
Here is what you will see: The river winds back and forth on itself; it might be twice as long as the border. The river has moved from the border in many places. So, there are places where Mexico owns land on this side of the river, and places where Texas has land on the other side of the river.
But if you look at property lines, you will see that the property lines CROSS thsoe borders — meaning some rancher in Texas has a ranch where part of the ranch is in Mexico, and some Mexicans have land that crosses into the United States.
You want to build a fence down the middle of their property?
Or do you want to build a fence on Mexican land? Or do you want to cut off parts of the United States from itself with a border fence, ceding the land to Mexico?
You can’t build a fence in the middle of the river. You can’t build a fence that CROSSES the river. But the border is IN the river in most places, and CROSSES the river in many other places.
We don’t build a fence up the coast of the Gulf of Mexico, even though it would be easy to get in a boat and sail the 3 miles from Mexico, around any “fence”, and onto the beach in the United States. So if we think water is good enough to stop them in the gulf, why do we think we need to wall off a major source of water on the Texas border?
To: bullypulpit
Illegal immigration is the ROOT OF ALL EVIL. And PERRY IS A SUPPORTER OF THIS. He needs to get back over to the Liberal side of the fence.....I hate this guy to the core.
55 posted on
10/06/2011 6:08:11 AM PDT by
Fawn
(No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!!)
To: bullypulpit
This border fence is to (some on) the Right as global warming is to (many on) the Left.
62 posted on
10/06/2011 6:53:12 AM PDT by
jla
(Who says Perry's a conservative? - Rush, Sarah, & Levin do.)
To: bullypulpit
82 posted on
10/06/2011 11:07:34 AM PDT by
AdamBomb
To: bullypulpit
To: bullypulpit
“Rick Perry Does Not Support a U.S.-Mexico Border Fence”
Of course he doesn’t. Ricardo doesn’t want to stop the free flow of immigrants. He just wants to make campaign speeches that SOUND tough on immigration.
He’ll be as tough on immigration as Jorge Bush or Juan McCain.
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