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The Truth Found a Voice in Rick Perry
September 23, 2011 | Vanity

Posted on 09/23/2011 6:54:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Tribune7

So you subsidize the college education of illegals who graduate high school and so what then? You allow them to hold jobs as well? NO ENTITLEMENTS FOR ILLEGALS PERIOD.


161 posted on 09/23/2011 10:08:26 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
FReeperesque!

LOL... And may the FReeperesque live on in us all! :-)

162 posted on 09/23/2011 10:13:38 AM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving up so many whoppers.)
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To: skeeter
BTW what does 'working towards citizenship' mean?

Its kinda like saying that a bank robber is working towards financial independence.

163 posted on 09/23/2011 10:14:03 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Hugin
I appreciate your comments and wanted to comment on this part:

But the fact is immigration is one issue.

But it effects (bleeds over into) so many other problems and has the potential (dare I say we're on the cusp) of being the straw that broke free-market capitalism in the U.S.

If we can get the border sealed and halt the dependency state Dems encourage, it will stop many other negatives pressing on the U.S.

Follow the money.

164 posted on 09/23/2011 10:14:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Kartographer
You allow them to hold jobs as well?

The reality is you got at least 10 million here. Many of them are holding jobs. That's what's on the table for you to deal with.

Personally, I'd rather see them speaking and reading English and holding a job, than milking the system by collecting food stamps and health care and not holding a job.

165 posted on 09/23/2011 10:15:37 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: kabar

Thank you for your informative and well-documented posts!


166 posted on 09/23/2011 10:16:06 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: gogogodzilla

The way I’m understanding this is that they must be on a path to citizenship so that when they were finished their education they would also have citizenship, thus allowing for them to be legally employed.


167 posted on 09/23/2011 10:17:17 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: KeyLargo
Perry got a rousing ovation when he completed his in-state tuition remarks last night. Don't forget that. And multiply it by all 50 states come voting time. He's the only one not putting up walls against hispanics in this country. Its the fastest growing population.

Where people need to draw a distinction is that Texas and a few other states have hispanic immigrants that have been here for decades. And TONS of them. They're here, they aren't leaving, a few want a college education. Can't deport them, can't deny them entrance. Let them pay the same rates as any other resident of the state.

No different that buying a hunting license or fishing license. If you live in that state, you pay state rates. If you don't, you pay non-resident rates.

They're PAYING for their college education.

168 posted on 09/23/2011 10:23:42 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: Tribune7
Ignore the law. Ignore sovereignty. Yeah that's going to work. For the most part they don't learn English and why should they? Everything is geared so they don't have to. I rather make so that they can't milk the system so that many self deport as has happened in every state that really cracks down. REWARDING people for illegal behavior does not provide you with good future citizens and shows that laws are only to be followed if you agree with them or it convenient to do so otherwise do what you want. We don't need an illegal enabler as President.


169 posted on 09/23/2011 10:32:07 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry lost my primary vote in last nights debate.


170 posted on 09/23/2011 10:37:45 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: Kartographer
The Rick Perry-ACORN connection explained: A primer for non-Texans "...............Their situation caused such outrage that the Texas Legislature took it up during the next session and passed Senate Bill 198, which Governor Perry signed into law on June 13, 2001. It gave homeowners a 60 day window to cure any defaults, required greater transparency prior to purchase, required insurance for the home, and required a check list of assurances that the home had no outstanding liens and was in working order............"
171 posted on 09/23/2011 10:41:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: kabar

Well, we shall see. If Romney surges to a lead in SC, I’ll concede you might have a point. Even if he does, however, I think the lead will disappear long before any voting. In the end, immigration isn’t going to have much to do with voting in SC or anywhere else this year and Perry’s comments last night will have very little impact on the race. Some of the impact they have will, in fact, be positive for Perry.

If you’re right Perry is done for. If I’m right he’ll coast to an easy win over Governor Gay Marriage and Socialized Medicine. Time will tell.


172 posted on 09/23/2011 10:44:29 AM PDT by fluffdaddy (Who died and made the Supreme Court God?)
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To: ichabod1
So what was the reason why Perry supported the tuition discount for illegal's children? Does it include even illegal's children not born in USA? Or only those born here?
173 posted on 09/23/2011 10:46:05 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only radical and destructive.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rick Perry is an illegal enabler. You can spin that any way you want.


174 posted on 09/23/2011 10:47:17 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: LibFreeUSA; ichabod1; All
So what was the reason why Perry supported the tuition discount for illegal's children? Does it include even illegal's children not born in USA? Or only those born here?

The purpose of writing the essay of this thread was to answer your questions. Please read it.

175 posted on 09/23/2011 10:49:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: listenhillary
"If the representatives of the state are so out of touch with the people, why are they in office?"

That's a very good question, which by the way, should also be directed at the majority of those sitting in Congress, and the occupant in the WH.

176 posted on 09/23/2011 10:51:58 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only radical and destructive.)
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To: esoxmagnum

You may not get to vote for a primary candidate. Mitt Romney and his minions, Texas for Public Justice (Soros)and Freepers will have spread enough lies that Mitt’s all that will be left on the primary ballots next spring.


177 posted on 09/23/2011 10:52:33 AM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: Quicksilver
Do you think that the Federal government should override state’s tuition laws?

It's not about the Federal meddling in a tuition law. One of the key places where there should be unanimity of policy in the country should be about what benefits are reserved for citizens and lawfully present aliens.

Unfortunately, we now have an Administration in Washington which wants a unanimity of policy resulting in open borders and benefits. Ideally, the Federal government would act in the interests of its existing citizens by having a sane border control and immigration policy. In the absence of that, the states go their way in all sorts of different ways, from sanctuary cities to in-state tuition programs for illegal aliens to Sheriff Joe Arpaio's round-em-up policies.

So, I was stating what the policy should be on in-state/out of state tuition in my ideal world. If states can redefine the benefits of citizenship as they wish, we're going to get all sorts of crazy things happening--as we are.

Generally, my policy is that he who pays for it decides how it is spent. So, I'd ordinarily be against Federal meddling if the State made the expense. But, treatment of illegals should be uniform across the oountry in my opinion, so this is a place where Federal input is appropriate (if it is sane, and it hasn't been).

178 posted on 09/23/2011 10:53:10 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: fluffdaddy
In the end, immigration isn’t going to have much to do with voting in SC or anywhere else this year

You're dreaming...

179 posted on 09/23/2011 10:56:25 AM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Kartographer
Rick Perry is an illegal enabler. You can spin that any way you want.

The information LINKED in Post # 171 in reply to your photo and characterization of that photo in Post # 169 are the FACTS.

I hope you and others will take the few minutes it will require to go and read it, so you will understand why Gov. Perry is there signing the legislation.

180 posted on 09/23/2011 10:56:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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