[P-Marlowe]

But, emotional opinions not withstanding, Natural Born has a real meaning, relative to the time that the constitution was written, and it requires that both parents be citizens.

The 14th Amendment is part of the constitution, is it not?

Actually you are wrong on the original intent as well. Vitell's definition of Natural Born Citizen was that the citizenship of the father was controlling and the citizenship of the mother was irrelevant.

The 14th Amendment changes the definition to make anyone who is born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction is a citizen at birth. Citizenship at the time of birth has always been the hallmark of Natural Born Citizen status. The key is whether the parents are subjects of the United States at the time of birth, not whether they were Citizens at the time.

Rubio is a Natural Born Citizen under the 14th Amendment. Jindal is not.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “The key is whether the parents are subjects of the United States at the time of birth, not whether they were Citizens at the time.” <<

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Jibberish!

There are no “subjects” of the US. A subject is a possession, much like a slave. We have citizens here, Aliens, Resident Aliens, and Illegal Aliens.

All aliens that have signed a contract with the immigration dept, and have a Green Card to so verify are Resident Aliens, and thus their issue are , like their parents, “under the jurisdiction” of the US. That makes them citizens under the 14th, “Native Citizens,” but not NB citizens, because NB citizenship flows solely from the parents citizenship, not from where they are born.

[betty boop]

... the citizenship of the father was controlling and the citizenship of the mother was irrelevant.

I understand that this has long been the case in (Muslim) Indonesia, a nation which does not permit dual citizenship.

Which of course has a bearing on the citizenship status of our Gangsta President. When Lolo Soetoro adopted Barry, little Barry became an Indonesian citizen, irrespective of the American citizenship of his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro.

To me, the entire brou-ha-ha about the place of Obama's nativity is a red herring; the debate about whether he is a native-born or natural-born citizen is irrelevant. If he is an Indonesian citizen, then clearly he is ineligible for the office he holds.

Unless he reclaimed his American citizenship upon attaining the age of majority (18). But did he do this? It has been reported that he took a trip to Pakistan in his early 20s, traveling on an Indonesian passport.

But of course, the pertinent evidentiary records — virtually all records pertaining to himself and members of his family — are either under seal or "disappeared."

But I digress — we were speaking of the NBC status of Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal. On your interpretation of the Fourteenth, it seems clear that the former is a NBC and the latter is not.

Thank you so much for writing!