Those are nice fancy words, but what do they mean? Vaccines are used against contagious disease. The need for them isn't known until after death and crippling effect. The people that make the decisions have to draw a line somewhere. At what point will you draw that line? A actual number, for that is what has to be used to meause when your phrase above is met.
And after it has been shown to have that result, would you agree to continue it to prevent it from happening again, even decades later?
Once you accept that government can demand specific medical care of its citizens
In Texas, we can choose to opt out, for no other reason than we don't want to participate. Some other states require a medical necessity. Some allow religious reasons but then apply to all vaccines. In Texas, we get to choose we don't like a single one and opt out of it alone.
Weve established what you are. [in this case, a socialist]. Now were just negotiating over the price."
I believe we both agree there is a place, you just may want millions dead before we agree to the actions.
They mean if people are not going to die in significant numbers in the short term with no other way to protect themselves, then it's not the government's business.
Once you start dealing with long-term diseases, government has no role in the issue. People can make their own long-term decisions and they have plenty of time to make them and decide for themselves what to do.
The people that make the decisions have to draw a line somewhere.
And the "people that make the decision" in America is We the People, not our Lord High Masters the elected official. They are our servants not our masters.
You need to get your head away from the "government makes decisions for the people" line of thinking. That is not what government is about. Government is the servant of the people. Its function to act according to our will, not to force us to act according to its will.
Get the master-servant relationship straight and all these difficult questions are very straightforward. All you need to do is not be afraid of the concept that individuals are free men who have both the right and the responsibility to make decisions for themselves.
I believe we both agree there is a place, you just may want millions dead before we agree to the actions.
That is practically word-for-word the hardcore lefty argument for socialized medicine.