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this biologist notes the vaccine is NOT safe. It has a record of having caused more harm than most other vaccines. Frankly, it shouldn’t even be on the market.

Safety and vaccines are not adequately studied for a whole bunch of reasons. I used to be agnostic about vaccines because of their demonstrated benefits with most childhood diseases. Since then, the field has really moved in a bunch of wrong directions at the expense of public safety.


7 posted on 09/17/2011 7:44:20 AM PDT by bioqubit
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“The American Academy of Pediatrics would like to correct false statements made in the Republican presidential campaign that HPV vaccine is dangerous and can cause mental retardation. There is absolutely no scientific validity to this statement. Since the vaccine has been introduced, more than 35 million doses have been administered, and it has an excellent safety record.”


15 posted on 09/17/2011 7:53:25 AM PDT by Grunthor (Almost any republican currently running for POTUS would be light years better than Obama)
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To: bioqubit
It has a record of having caused more harm than most other vaccines.

After reviewing all 12,424 reports of adverse events after HPV immunization made to the joint CDC-FDA Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting system from June 2006 through December 2008, researchers from the two agencies reported that, generally, adverse event rates were similar to what is seen in safety reviews of other vaccines. However, they did acknowledge the presence of "disproportional reporting" of syncope (8.2 per 100,000 doses) and blood clots (0.2 per 100,000), compared with that seen with administration of other vaccines.

CDC, FDA Study Reinforces Safety, Efficacy of Gardasil
http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/publications/news/news-now/clinical-care-research/20090902gardasil-jama.html
Report by American Academy of Family Physicians

16 posted on 09/17/2011 7:54:36 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: bioqubit
What sort of "biologist?" PhD? Research? Immunology?

Clearly your claims are at variance with what the CDC says on its website.

Have you read the VAERS report? Coincidence is not the same as causality, whether you are discussing man made global climate change, or vaccine side effects.
VAERS data cannot be used to prove a causal association between the vaccine and the adverse event. The only association between the adverse event and vaccination is temporal, meaning that the adverse event occurred sometime after vaccination. Therefore, the adverse event may be coincidental or it may have been caused by vaccination, however we cannot make any conclusions that the events reported to VAERS were caused by the vaccine.
35 million doses have been distributed with only 68 deaths have been reported in those who have received the vaccine (32 confirmed) and the epidemiology shows NO statistical correlation that would imply causality.
In the 32 reports confirmed, there was no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine and some reports indicated a cause of death unrelated to vaccination.

34 posted on 09/17/2011 8:22:24 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: bioqubit

“this biologist notes the vaccine is NOT safe. It has a record of having caused more harm than most other vaccines. Frankly, it shouldn’t even be on the market.

Safety and vaccines are not adequately studied for a whole bunch of reasons. I used to be agnostic about vaccines because of their demonstrated benefits with most childhood diseases. Since then, the field has really moved in a bunch of wrong directions at the expense of public safety.”

How about some facts, and citations for same? I’m not a biologist, just a fairly well-informed amateur scientist and father of two girls and a boy. Two girls who DID recieve the Gardasil vacinations as soon as they were available. My MIL had cervical cancer at age 29, and my wife is the oldest person in her family to not have had cancer of some (or several assorted) type(s). My mom died after refusing chemo after her third bout with ovarian cancer, and my family depends on heart attacks to save us from cancer. My daughters are not interested in sex yet, both intending to complete college before they even THINK about a boyfriend. We make jokes about the 10Gauge Magnum, automatic, BELT-FED shotgun I have for dealing with potential boyfriends... (No, I’m NOT certain they really mean it. But they are very serious about their schooling and grades.)


106 posted on 09/17/2011 12:21:18 PM PDT by Old Student (Do NOT make me get out the torches and pitchforks...)
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