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To: MestaMachine; Students4Palin; CharlesWayneCT

Certainly, both Christianity and Islam play important roles in all World History courses. I do think, however, that Charles is glossing over the other issue that I raised—the program implemented by Perry promotes one religion (Islam) whilst denigrating another (Christianity). Even leaving aside the toxic effects on our culture of revisionist Islamic history, the Establishment Clause forbids “endorsement” of any religion over another and the Perry-Khan curriculum looks suspiciously like an endorsement to me. While I don’t generally agree with over-expansive readings of the Establishment Clause by the Supreme Court this violation appears to be pretty clear. I imagine Texas has side-stepped such a challenge by asserting that the program is non-sectarian and that it has a secular purpose.

It certainly doesn’t seem to have a purely secular purpose to me.

Most people probably don’t have a problem with the fact that Governor Perry is friends with a prominent muslim. The problem arises when that friendship is parlayed into wide-scale indoctrination of Texas’ youngsters.


44 posted on 09/10/2011 3:16:58 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads

That might well be, and Texas is Texas after all. If they accept this at face value nd without question, there is nothing I can do about it. BUT when it threatens to overflow into the highest office in the land, I would be derelict not doing due diligence and studying exactly what rick perry has actually done in Texas.
We are continuously saying that obama is known by the company he keeps. Why is it suddenly different for rick perry? aga khan is no moderate muslim, but how many Texans have delved into the man? How many know anything except what they have been told either by him or by perry? This is a bad guy. His followers fear him and speak about him in whispers.
What makes this hard to pin down, is it isn’t in all Texas schools, only ones specifically chosen by aga khan and rick perry and funded by aga khan. It IS spreading, however, as they train more teachers. Parents are not informed about this.


49 posted on 09/10/2011 3:46:48 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: Brices Crossroads

I read the actual course outline, and it didn’t. I realise that there was this web site that people claim said something different, that disappeared, and that the people who know about the course say wasn’t representative of the course, but all I can speak to is the course information itself.

But I do have to say your treatment is much better than is typical when this issue comes up. Usually we end up confusing the Kahn thing with the federally mandated program that Perry had nothing to do with, that actually did teach what you are saying, and was roundly attacked by Texans everywhere.


51 posted on 09/10/2011 4:12:32 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Brices Crossroads; All

The Agha Khan, who traditionally gets publicly weighed every year and is donated his weight in gold, is the leader of a tiny (2% - 5%) fairly innocuous Shia Moslem sect, mostly limited in their area of influence. Though the famous Assassins (hashishians) of Persia were Ismailis.

MUCH WORSE in Texas, is the passage of a bill in the Texas Senate to award Fetullah Gulen - the Turkish equivalent to Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini a Certificate of Gratitude to praise him for his services!

Gulen was exiled from Turkey by SECULAR government but was pardonned by the Supreme Court there after the Islamic de-facto takeover of power by “jihadist” Prime Minister Erdogan. Erdegan has pre-emptively arrested many of the top military leaders who have traditionally backed the secular government that was set up Kamal Attaturk nearly a century ago.

Based in Philadelphia, Gulen has set up Islamic Shariah schools North to Soouth from coast to coast, where they also preach Islamic sedition “as Allah has decreed”.

You can read detailed analysis of this in the comment above and have the ammunition to confront Dhimmi apologists for Obama’s bias toward promoting everything Moslem and the danger America and the West faces.

Compared to Gulen, who has about two million followers inside Turkey, the Ismaili leader Karim Agha Khan is a gentle little kitten.


53 posted on 09/10/2011 4:23:55 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: Brices Crossroads; MestaMachine
Another well written and informative post, BC. Thank you.

And thanks to MestaMachine for the well documented contribution to the discussion. I am posting this whole thread on my FaceBook wall.

Well done, people...GO SARAH !!

68 posted on 09/10/2011 8:52:25 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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