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The Fizzle in Drizzle (Ace of Spades unloads on Palin speech)
Ace of Spades HQ ^ | 9-3-2011 | Ace

Posted on 09/03/2011 10:30:52 PM PDT by smoothsailing

September 3, 2011

The Fizzle In Drizzle

Ace

Promising she was ready to have a "adult conversation" about the specifics of what needed to be done to right America, Palin set a marker for herself:

"It requires deeds not words, it's not enough for politicians to throw around some vague generalities..."

And then went on to speak in... vague generalities. (Note: All quotes were taken directly as she spoke, and might not be completely word-for-word accurate.)

Her five point plan could have been taken from just about any candidates' Standard Stump Speech, and I include Jon Huntsman when I say "any candidate."

Here are some of the detailed, specific non-vague-generalities highlights:

So far it's a "bona fide workin' man's plan" which is all about "empowerment."

"The way forward is no more politics as usual."

"All power not specifically delegated to the Federal government by the Constitution is reserved for the states, or we the people... so let's enforce the 10th amendment."

"We must repeal obamacare."

"Get the government out of the way, let the private sector breathe and expand..."

"No more runaway debt, we must priorize and cut. Cancel unused stimulus funds."

"The reality is we will have entitlement reform, either we do it ourselves or the world capital markets will."

Now, this advocacy for entitlement reform is semi-gutsy, but it is obviously not "detailed." And in fact most candidates talk of "reforming" entitlements. Few are very specific.

"We have the highest federal corporate tax rates in the world, do you know it's higher than China?"

Okay, I do not believe a single candidate does not advocate lowering the corporate tax rate. Including Huntsman.

She wants to cut it down to zero, which is at least a detail, and is at least not a gimme.

To pay for this, she wants to eliminate "loopholes and bailouts and corporate cronyism."

Remember, she's going to give you an "adult conversation," rich in detail, unlike other poltiicians, who speak in "vague generalities."

This speech was said to be two things, and hinted to a third.

First, it was supposed to be a "major announcement." If there was a major announcement here, I missed it entirely.

Second, it was supposed to be a "full-throated defense of the Tea Party." It wasn't. It was platitudes and bromides sprinkled with flattering the crowd.

What would a "full-throated (and "major") defense of the Tea Party" sound like? Well, for one, I'd think it should be persuasive to non-Tea Partiers. For another, I think it would be thoughtful, rather than off-the-cuff standard flatteries. For a third, I think it should be novel or new.

I could imagine a good speech about the Tea Party. I could imagine a speech going all the way back to the Town Halls during and after the Revolutionary War, when citizens were actually engaged in what their government and their country would be. I could imagine a speech detailing the patriotic conscientiousness of making sure that what was won by blood should not be lost by disregard.

And I could imagine such a speech noting that for decades, American citizens had largely abandoned this commitment to engagement with their own political fates, and a Media-Government Elite filled the vacuum, and over time, became less and less connected with the citizens they were supposedly serving.

And I could imagine a speech then noting that this Elite, having gotten cozy deciding the fate of the nation, reacts hysterically and angrily when citizens decide they want to take back their God-given right to decide the course of human events for themselves, viciously attacking Americans who had the audacity to say "We're taking our responsibilities as citizens seriously again, after too long leaving it them to you, those who craved power and assumed it and now cry like stuck animals when we attempt to take back what was always ours."

Maybe you don't think that's good. Maybe that strikes you as pedestrian and done to death.

But if you're going to claim a "full throated defense of the Tea Party," shouldn't there be something beyond the typical praise of the "workin' man" and the standard-issue statements that we're the ones who actually produce wealth?

That stuff is true. But it's unremarkable. Certainly it fails to live up to the advance billing.

Third, what was implied was that Palin would make an announcement about her candidacy. She hinted about this "See you on September 3rd!," a campaign-like commercial promised.

And she never said publicly, "Although I am giving a policy speech, I will not be making any kind of declaration on September 3rd." Such a statement was leaked by "sources close to the governor," but is there something "unconservative" about simply making one's plans known?

So that other people don't waste their time?

Instead, after the encouragement of interest, and the cultivation of speculation about what that "major announcement" might be, it was a very standard-issue and not-particularly-important or novel stump speech.

Some might find this sort of coyness and games-playing "brilliant" or the like. I don't.

Some may claim she "played a trick on the media." Yes, the media. And everyone else too.

David Letterman used to make a point of wasting "network time" on dumb stuff. The in-joke was "Can you believe we are doing a network broadcast and yet we're just showing videos of squirrels?"

I found that funny, for a time. Until I realized he wasn't just wasting the network's time with the squirrel videos; he was wasting my time, too. I stopped considering myself one of the people "inside the joke," laughing at NBC, and started considering myself one of the people being punked with time-wasting exercises.

It also occurred to me that as long as people like me were tuning in for the squirrel videos, the NBC corporate suits were happy. They didn't care if Letterman was wasting the audience's time. They sold commercial space either way.

So who was actually getting his chain yanked there? The media was getting paid, which is all they care about.

Palin got lots of attention for a speech that turned out to be extremely bullet-point and frankly trivial.

I don't consider this an achievement. I just consider it manipulative, and I don't just laugh it off as playing a prank on the stupid media.

A lot of people traveled a very long way and sat out in the rain for something that was suggested just might be The Big Announcement. A lot of people watched on TV.

And what they saw was a no-brainer stump speech.

Who's being pranked here? The media in attendance were all paid to be there. Their travel arrangements were comped. They'll get back their vacation day. And it was either covering this or covering Jon Huntsman.

What about everyone else?


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KEYWORDS: palin; palinsep3speech; rjeffries; sarahpalin
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To: PA Engineer

I smell noob trollishness.


41 posted on 09/04/2011 12:31:21 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: DaxtonBrown
And I thought it was great. Maybe we listened to different speeches.

check the born on date.
42 posted on 09/04/2011 12:32:59 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom. Freddd is Gay)
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To: grey_whiskers
Look, a N00b Perrysite!

Perrysite or white house turfer? nevertheless I smell ozone.
43 posted on 09/04/2011 12:35:13 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom. Freddd is Gay)
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To: antceecee
I smell noob trollishness.

"Bigtime!" They just can't help themselves. They just have that smell.
44 posted on 09/04/2011 12:37:03 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom. Freddd is Gay)
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To: grey_whiskers

You think this is his first time here?


45 posted on 09/04/2011 12:59:16 AM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! If you support SARAH PALIN & want on her ping list, let me know!)
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To: unseen1

You just called me delusional after claiming that Sarah Palin is 90% likely to be the next president? WOW.


46 posted on 09/04/2011 12:59:34 AM PDT by rjeffries
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To: smoothsailing

>>> “It requires deeds not words, it’s not enough for politicians to throw around some vague generalities...” And then went on to speak in... vague generalities.

The Delphi of Wasilla is not required to be specific.


47 posted on 09/04/2011 1:08:46 AM PDT by tlb
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To: casinva

I think she might be intentionally aligning herself with Perry, while (for now) stopping short of endorsing him. I doubt that she really intends to run, but by keeping the option open she keeps Perry scared - he knows he’d have a fight on his hand if she entered the race.

She’s a young woman, she’s more than twenty years younger than Reagan was when he was elected. Maybe she’s carving out a role as a sort of leader of the conservative movement, someone republicans have to be on the right side of, someone who can punish them when they start valuing money and establishment approval more than their principles.

I’d like that, wouldn’t you?

Or maybe she WILL run next year. I think it would be a bad idea. I don’t think she could win. I think Perry is the man for 2012, for all his faults.


48 posted on 09/04/2011 1:12:28 AM PDT by skintight buffoonery
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To: casinva

“...am I alone in seeing how these same five points line up exactly with Rick Perry?”

Yes, and I will tell you why. Point me to ONE single instance where Sarah Palin claims SHE created one single job, or that SHE would create jobs. Any job. ONE instance. Then repeat the same process with perry.


49 posted on 09/04/2011 1:25:19 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: jocon307

She runs as independent..she should be shunned

I couldn’t imagine...I’m pretty sure she has disavowed that already

but I have had enough of the stalling...genius or not

Got koi?

yep...plenty..either do it or get off the pot

get in there and fight it out like the rest of them..you will suck up the air in the room right away and it will be you and Perry..Mitt a laggard and Michelle..whom I like too..as a bank walker...

this ain’t 1979 and you ain’t Reagan yet hon...

and spare me the big money lectures..you will get it too...or you will lose

if you run


50 posted on 09/04/2011 1:26:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (I will vote for whomever my dog tells me to)
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To: rjeffries; unseen1

You are a whack job, nOOb.

Where did you claim Sarah has a 90% chance of becoming the next President?

Flipping Tard.

Here is what you claimed and it put Sarah at 10%:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2773340/posts?page=32#32

Oh, wait....You actually claimed she has “0”(that’s zero) chance to become president.

In fact, the majority of your posts are anti Sarah.

I don’t expect to see you around here much longer.

Kitty, Kitty, Kitty....


51 posted on 09/04/2011 1:57:47 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: smoothsailing

I like a Palin/Rubio ticket.


52 posted on 09/04/2011 2:39:59 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I know that God's tomorrow will be better than today!" A. H. Ackley)
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To: flowerplough

“Does Sarah often like to say “full-throated”?”

Maybe, but I don’t recall hearing it from her. It’s quite popular among the liberal talking heads, though. (I hate that phrase!)


53 posted on 09/04/2011 2:44:00 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I know that God's tomorrow will be better than today!" A. H. Ackley)
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To: unseen1
man you perry supporters really are living in a dream worls. the only way Palin would enodrse Perry is if he beats her in the primaries. which isn’t going to happen

If she is afraid of the media comments, she's surely afraid to debate those running for the nomination. If she's running as you say, then what's she waiting for? Is she afraid if debates? Does she only have confidence when it's just her making a speech with no one to oppose her?

Sorry. I was a big Palin 2012 supporter but I've seen nothing moving forward with her. She's still in off year election mode. I still like Palin as a commentator and as a leader of conservatism. I give her credit for the 2010 wins.

But there's no way I would vote for her now in the primaries. She has shown the American people who cannot stand another 4 years of Obama that she's not the type who likes to prepare herself in debates.

Unless she has found some damning evidence on Obama, there's no way she will be running. If she runs, she has made a very bad political calulation by waiting so long.

PS: If all this Palin is running Hype is merely hopes and dreams of her supporters and she was never planning on running in the first place I will try to take all of what I said about her 2012 run back.

Be careful Palin supporters! I like her too. Be careful. You and the media with the hype of her running for President (when she has not yet announced that she's running) could destroy her credibility and her chances of ever running in the future. She will be defined as a quitter when she really never announced in the first place.

We conservatives need Palin. The GOP needs her. Stop with the nonsense if she's not announced. Americans forget easily. If you say she's running already enough times, that will be what is fact in 2016 or 2020. You should know by now how the media pinned comments of a SNL actress on Sarah Palin and now most Americans think she actually said it.

If you like Palin, you should step back. If she runs she will announce (though it's too late - she may win the nomination and she will have my vote in the general election but it's doubtful she can handle Obama in the debates). She'd probably try to minimize the number of debates with Obama just as she is trying to do now in the primaries (if she's really going to run).

54 posted on 09/04/2011 2:49:14 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Bigtigermike
Ace of Spades is an establishment site...there are a lot of Mittbots on that site in fact. Ace has never been in Sarah’s cornor for the most part and THAT’S THE FACT.

Yep - and we musn't forget that if not for Palin and the Tea Party, nobody would be using the talking points that Ace says everyone is using. It's like Einstein talking about the Theory of Relativity and the Ace being unimpressed because he overheard two of Einstein's cleaning ladies talking about the weird notes they read, but didn't understand...

55 posted on 09/04/2011 2:58:09 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: GeronL; Allegra
Perry opposes a border wall.

It has recently been discovered that the border between Texas and Mexico is a river!

Walling it off would lose landowners access to the water.
All the moo-cows and horsies and little sheeps would be very thirsty and sad.

56 posted on 09/04/2011 4:12:10 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: humblegunner

Destroying our way of life with an illegal invasion so a cow can get a drink of water is a price to high. Drill a well. Build the wall. Walls a re non-political and work 7/24. Perry is a RINO.


57 posted on 09/04/2011 4:16:39 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Bigtigermike

The speech she gave was full of platitudes after Palin said she would talk to the audience like adults. Why is AOSpades wrong to point that out?


58 posted on 09/04/2011 4:26:59 AM PDT by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: GeronL

Wrong. Ace is leaning towards Perry.


59 posted on 09/04/2011 4:29:20 AM PDT by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: rjeffries; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
She’s weak and feeble in the face of a media onslaught. This she has proven time and time again since 2008.

You are a liar and a noob troll.

ALL the media, trying 24/7 for going on at least five years now, have FAILED in their lame attempts to destroy her, and her destruction HAS been their primary goal.

She scares them to death, and she obviously scares you, as the bugs under a rock fear the exposure of the light, and as all nefarious agendas require the cloak of darkness to prosper.

They've not only failed, but her support and dedication have GROWN throughout the onslaught.

The pros/cons of the other candidates need not enter in here.
Your trolling lies are a slanderous affront to the honor of a proven patriot and her family, as well as a laughable distortion of the truth.

Millions of Americans, myself proudly included, voted for Mrs.Palin in '08, NOT McLame.
And those same people, along with untold millions more - including an overwhelming number of the nation's female voters - will pull the lever in 2012 to elect our first Madam President, one we can all be proud of as constitutional conservatives, the political philosophy on which this site was founded.

So rather than a pissing contest with me, how about you explain your argument to the site boss as to how 'weak and feeble' she is, along with the rest of your wishful thinking screed.

Whoever it is that you're shilling for needs to hand out some talking points that don't rely on playing the parrot for abc/nbc/cbs/cnn/du/hp/pravda/etc.

60 posted on 09/04/2011 4:39:54 AM PDT by tomkat (Sarah '12)
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