Posted on 08/31/2011 7:32:11 AM PDT by el_texicano
Rickstians can convince themselves of anything.
Perry is the one working with Romney.
Even more recent than that. We still had a democratic-controlled state House in 2000.
Rick Perry certainly has his flaws. Just being a long-term politician is a big one for me. I just don't see the need to make up false claims about him, like supporting gay marriage.
*ping*
If he’s willing to foist windmills on Texas, he’s willing to foist them on the rest of us. The fact that he bragged up windmill manufacturing tells me he has every intent to see them sold to the rest of us.
People need to learn to do their own research and stop reading one sided campaign blather.
Supporting the 10th amendment and supporting a new amendment against gay marriage are not positions in opposition to each other.
He supports the constitution as it currently stands. As it stands now, marriage is not a constitutional issue. As per the 10th amendment, it remains in the area of powers reserved to the states and the people. Hence, if NY passes a gay marriage law, it is nobody’s business but their own, and certainly not a federal issue.
If people could get a new amendment passed which defined marriage as a federal matter with a standardized definition, it would no longer be a 10th amendment issue as the new amendment would now take precedence.
You can’t cherry pick when you like the 10th amendment and use it, and then when you don’t like it and ignore it.
Perry apparently understands the constitution and how it works well enough to get that distinction.
If you want to make a case that Perry is in favor of gay marriage, find a cite where he advocates it in Texas. If you can’t, you have no argument.
Would you show me what Texas Policy/Regulation/Subsidy Rick Perry used to get more windmills?
We do have a lot of windmills. We have had them built, in my opnion, due to the combination of federal subsidies and a business friendly environment in Texas.
I am certainly open to anything I missed. Will you point it out?
LOL now you’re supporting windmills too.
You clowns crack me up.
Would you like to talk about the million dollars in TEF funds that went to HelioSol Corp? BTW HelioSol has put off their job creation plans.
BULL.
As Texas Agriculture Commissioner, Perry wrote on April 6, 1993, to ask Hillary to keep the challenges to rural communities, farmers and ranchers in mind as the task force developed ideas on healthcare reform.
That was just two months after Clinton took office, 6 months before Hillary's congressional testimony and 8 months before a bill was introduced.
Anyone can read the letter.
He was doing the duty of the office to which he was elected. It was not advocacy or praise for what came out of the task force or the legislation in congress.
So what you’re saying is W took credit for Lt. Gov Perry’s success? /s
Please read the alleged "smoking gun" letter if you haven't.
He is not "in favor of HillaryCare," he's writing as Ag Comm to Hillary at the start of her healthcare task force telling her to consider the needs and problems of farmers, rangers and rural communities as she proceeds.
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I didn't write any support about windmills. You seem to be willing to put words in my mouth as well as Rick Perry.
Windmills are fine, if they are not subsidized with Tax Payer dollars. The Federal Government is doing the subsidizing, Rick Perry didn't. But I welcome you to show me where I am wrong.
The other reason is Texas has a huge wind resource. Only North Dakota has more. That doesn't justify the federal subsidy, but it does help explain why the Federal subsidy is spent where there is both wind and significant load.
Would you like to talk about...
Would you like to finish the first claim you made, falsely in my opinion, before you switch subjects? Then we can move to the next. As I said, Rick Perry has plenty of real flaws, no doubt. But we don't need to make up false ones.
It has always been my experience that a leopard cannot change its spots.
The thing is Reagan was a Democrat until 1962. Eighteen years later he was the GOP nominee for POTUS.
Perry's been GOP for over 21 years and that isn't good enough for some.
I observed earlier there's a near pavlovian response to "Hillary," "Democrat" or "Al Gore" where facts, context and history go out the window.
Being an ex Democrat from my days at a major university and supporting Stevenson, I share a conversion experience. Mine wasn’t because some politician excited me but rather because I became aware of what the different political groups were promoting. It was easy for me to reject ideas and people who believed that they had some extraordinary insight to decide how much of my labor should be for me and how much should be for ‘the general welfare’. The comments on Perry should be given serious analysis as to validity. Right now I see/hear Perry really talking my talk, but I also wonder how long will the walk be for the talk considering his past political baggage. I guess I would feel much better if in his talking he would openly and candidly note his current positions on some issues as opposed to previously held positions where there are questions as to which he would still favor.
Much like Obama, its not so much what he says as what he doesn’t say.
Just look through the thread and you’ll see defenders defending liberal policies of Perry but I guarantee you won’t see them posting threads praising those things.
When Reagan changed from democrat party to republican, did you think the same?
How about Strom Thurmond? Elizabeth Dole? Condoleezza Rice? Phil Gramm?
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