They do not speak for us, we can speak for ourselves!
Posted on 08/24/2011 12:43:42 AM PDT by techno
Interesting. Saving for later.
I don't join threads asking, "What do you think of this poll?"
Only the ignorant give any poll more than a few seconds' notice.
The only poll than counts is the on in the voting booths.
Life is too short.
The real enemy is a mob movement. You'd do yourself a lot of good by carefully reading Le Bon's The Crowd. Therein is a case study of how an experienced orator drained a ugly mob movement.
Le Bon's Rule #1: mobs are never swayed by rational arguments. They cannot be reasoned out of mob mode because their reason gets short-circuited when in that mode. Their mob sentiments either have to be spoken to or successfully cast as ridiculous. Plain embarrassment is a reliable antidote to the mob mentality.
Applies not just to Rasmussen. They used the same techniques to demonize Angle here in Las Vegas. I used to work for a crooked Democrat PR firm (don’t ask), so I know their techniques.
In the end, it doesn’t matter. The insiders crammed Bush, Dole, Bush and McCain down our throats, now its time for cramback. Who are THEY going to vote for as the country crumbles? Time for the RINOs to suck it up.
Palinstas have no desire to become a part of a mob or adopt a mob mentality. But they do seek the truth and ways to improve their performance in terms of spreading “the good news” about Sarah Palin.
The point I was making is that they have a great interest in draining the mob mentality on the other side. I haven't read Ann Coulter's Demonic, so I don't know if she added suggestions on how to drain the mob feeling from the liberal mob, but I have read Le Bon and know he offers a few tips.
To sum up, I'm saying that Palinstas have a real need to become effective mob-tamers. I'm also saying that the techniques that work are counterintuitive, as Le Bon explains.
How did the American soldiers in WWII tame the “Japanese mob” in WWII?
They defeated them. “We win, they lose.”
Just remember the night of the Republican National Convention When Sarah Palin brought the house Down! That was Before the Lefty Nazis unleashed their Assasination of Sarah Palin because they wet thier Pants because they Knew What Sarah Meant,the Republican Establisment Knows as Well. Remember also the Crowds and excitement that Sarah Created,the Families that Flocked to see and Hear her.
I REMEMBER,Run Sarah,lets remind the Folks that we Decide Not Pollsters or Talking heads,at this time in our countries Journey we Need the Courage of our troops on the Front Lines.
I long to feel good about my Country again,thats what Sarah Brought,dont Settle for less
They weren't a mob: they were an enemy military force. You seem to be in love with your analogy.
Which echo's my sentiment.
We are intelligent and we do not need the following RINO's / Establishment types to tell us what to think anymore:
Kruthammer, Will, Kristol, Noonan, Parker, Rove just to name a few...
We can think for ourselves thank you very much! They do not speak for us, we can speak for ourselves!
I have professional reasons for taking polls more seriously, and they can be meaningful. Some polls are pure propaganda, but many do provide important and useful information. The issue is that polls measure what they were designed to measure at a particular moment in time, and in Palin's case that is the level of support for her today - when the majority of likely voters have not heard her own case for her candidacy. That's pretty much meaningless as a predictor of support for her once she has campaigned and people know her own words better than the Tina Fey sound bites. Good polls can answer how she will do at the ballot box, just not before she conducts a campaign.
The reason Obama is going to spend $1B in foreign donations and union dues on his campaign is that that sort of thing works. Let's see where she stands once voters listen to her. Perhaps Sarah will crash and burn even after campaigning. I doubt it, but it could happen. The good news is that we will know the answer long before November 2012, and we can decide whether to go forward with the best potential president (Sarah) or with the best candidate who is a patriotic conservative (NOT Romney, hopefully someone acceptable).
Of course you know that's redundant. :-)
I wish that were true. My reading on this board does not support that statement. I have seen calls for zot, more than once, for folks who dare to question the "Immaculation" of Sarah Palin.
You have never addressed me I don’t think.
I don’t consider myself as part of a mob and neither do I possess the mob mentality.
Actually I am an iconoclast who follows a beat of a different drummer.
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“...crooked Democrat...”
Of course you know that’s redundant. :-)
I know that now. I wrote my book on Harry Reid based on what I learned working at that PR firm. A lot of mafia stuff.
Political pros pay close attention to polls — but most of the ones they trust are unpublished and are used not to predict results but to gauge relative strength and changes over time. Such polls are used as part of campaign decisions about where to best allocate campaign effort and resources.
You make a wild assertion about Rasmussen...but provide no proof. Where is the world did you get the notion he is “push polling.” That is just insane.
Now, I don’t like the low numbers he shows for Palin against Obama. I question if the methodology of questions are phrased right...or that it is a correct sampling of the populace. However, I would never accuse him of push polling.
Just because a pollster does not report the numbers we want to see does not make them a push poller.
I don’t put much stock in polls. However, after watching them for years, it appears....at least to me....that Rasmussen is the most reliable. Although any poll - including Rasmussen’s - are at the very best semi-reliable.
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