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To: El Sordo

(1) What is your definition of a ‘birther’, and (2) how have I behaved toward any of those people. I’m getting just a little tired of the anti-birther memes and generalities. I look at Little Barry and see a fundamentally emotionally disturbed man incapable of telling the truth—particularly, especially and pathologically—when it comes to his childhood. He doesn’t tell lies, he IS a lie. That is the nature of Malignant Narcissism. This is fact, not opinion. Only those with little or no comprehension of this simply devastating personality disorder believe otherwise.

You look at him and see a trustworthy man known for his honesty and integrity? If not, how do you figure out which lie to believe and which to question?


139 posted on 08/19/2011 10:25:49 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

You look at him and see a trustworthy man known for his honesty and integrity? If not, how do you figure out which lie to believe and which to question?


Obviously things like honesty and integrity don’t really matter. That is to say he is probably one of the 49% of Americans who pay no federal income taxes, or is a public sector worker with all the benefits (2 x the average salary of a comparable private sector worker) that the working class are enslaved to provide.


160 posted on 08/19/2011 12:03:44 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Fantasywriter
“(1) What is your definition of a ‘birther’, and (2) how have I behaved toward any of those people. I’m getting just a little tired of the anti-birther memes and generalities. I look at Little Barry and see a fundamentally emotionally disturbed man incapable of telling the truth—particularly, especially and pathologically—when it comes to his childhood. He doesn’t tell lies, he IS a lie. That is the nature of Malignant Narcissism. This is fact, not opinion. Only those with little or no comprehension of this simply devastating personality disorder believe otherwise.
You look at him and see a trustworthy man known for his honesty and integrity? If not, how do you figure out which lie to believe and which to question?”

1) Birthers, in my opinion, are those who persist in believing that there is some kind of conspiracy to cover-up the circumstances surrounding BHO’s birth. Whether those circumstances are his parentage, location of birth, gender, religion, or other new ideas that get thought up as the conspiracy theories evolve.

From what I’ve seen, they have a tendency to latch on to other fallacies as well. The name seems to currently encompass a variety of stories and opinions regarding BHO’s Social Security number too.

As we are dealing with a group, there will always be variations and differences. Some current Birthers don’t believe that BHO was born in Kenya (though in 2008 this was a required tenet of faith). They might instead think that BHO’s father was someone other than BHO Sr..

Birthers are rather interesting in the same way JFK assassination conspiracy fanatics are. They cannot, to any appreciable extent, agree among themselves as to what actually happened. They can only agree that the truth is something other than what someone else thinks it is.

I don’t necessarily lump all the dual-citizenship or non-citizen parentage folks into this camp. I personally think an NBC should have two citizen parents. But from what I can tell, the legal support for this isn’t there. Others disagree, that’s fine.

2) As for behavior, from what I’ve seen you personally behave pretty well towards those who disagree with Birthers. I think you are quick to make assumptions about them, but I cannot deny that you seem to comport yourself well. Butterdezillion is the same way. We each think the other is waaay off the mark, but she treats people decently and with a certain level of respect.

That said, I’ve been called far too many vile names and accused of too many unnatural acts by other Birthers over the last three years to be very moved by those who would hie to their fainting couches every time a Birther gets called a fool, an idiot or is confronted by the word ‘crap’.

As for your last question, this is something that Birthers as a whole seem to be unable to get past. You see, you don’t need to take BHO’s word for anything on this. Question everything BHO says. That’s all good and well and reasonable. But what about Hawaiian vital records? Or newspaper archives? Or the good faith and commitment of Conservative legal foundations. Or Conservative commentators and pundits. Must a person resort to the wildest speculation to toss aside Hawaiian vital records, include Republicans in the conspiracy, claim the USSC is being blackmailed, argue that the Judicial Branch is in the tank for BHO or play conformational bias games with information just because the target is someone they detest?

186 posted on 08/19/2011 2:15:51 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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