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Democrats use science as a weapon
http://toddkinsey.com/blog/2011/08/17/democrats-use-science-as-a-weapon-2/ ^

Posted on 08/17/2011 6:57:10 AM PDT by Todd Kinsey

For the better part of a century, socialists (Democrats) have been using science as a weapon to destroy the very fabric of American society. Today they propagate the global warming myth, forty years ago they were sounding the global cooling alarm, and they’ve used junk science to teach evolution in our nation’s schools.

To the socialist it is somehow easier to believe that aliens put us here or that we emerged from some primordial sludge than it is to believe in God. Socialist leadership, under the guise of “organizing”, use the environment, gay rights, immigration, or any number of causes as a form of religion to keep their unwitting masses in line. Their absence of God, and therefore morality, leaves these desperate souls longing to believe in something. How else can you explain a human being that is willing to risk their life to save a tree or a whale, yet they have no qualms about aborting a baby or assisted suicide?

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Conspiracy; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: asa; belongsinreligion; democrats; gagdadbob; georgemurphy; globalwarming; morality; onecosmosblog; socialism; toddkinsey
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To: LeGrande
I testify that God is a pink Leprechaun. If you disagree with that assertion (and I fervently hope that you do) then please provide evidence supporting your denial of my assertion.

It is pretty simple. I do not accept your assertion. Now if you want me to accept it give me a reason to.

You do not have to accept the assertion that God has all attributes. It would be reasonable for you to ask me, had I asserted such, to give proof or evidence for such. I have not. I do not assert that God is evil.

Now you asserted that wave collapse is uncaused. Show me.

441 posted on 08/28/2011 1:30:52 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: LeGrande; betty boop; YHAOS; AndrewC; Alamo-Girl; Matchett-PI; xzins; Mind-numbed Robot; Fichori; ..
I testify that God is a pink Leprechaun. If you disagree with that assertion (and I fervently hope that you do) then please provide evidence supporting your denial of my assertion. Do you now see how ludicrous your position is?

Wrong, because it's up to you to provide evidence to support your assertion.

We have provided evidence and you have consistently disallowed it, a standard tactic of evolutionists. Just because you don't like the evidence and don't want the assertion to be true, does not mean that the evidence is not valid.

You are free to reject it, but to maintain credibility, you must provide a valid reason for rejecting it, other than the fact that you don't want to admit that there is a Creator who lays claim to your life.

442 posted on 08/28/2011 1:30:58 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: AndrewC
You have committed the fallacy of composition.

"Some properties are such that, if every part of a whole has the property, then the whole will, too. In such instances, the fallacy of composition does not apply."

Since GOD is defined as all properties then I am not committing that particular fallacy. Defining something as everything is a fallacy in itself.

443 posted on 08/28/2011 1:33:02 PM PDT by LeGrande ("life's tough; it's tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne)
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To: metmom; betty boop; YHAOS; AndrewC; Alamo-Girl; Matchett-PI; xzins; Mind-numbed Robot; Fichori

You guys win : )

I have no evidence to dispute your claim that your ‘GOD of all attributes’ is full of crap.


444 posted on 08/28/2011 1:38:38 PM PDT by LeGrande ("life's tough; it's tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne)
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To: LeGrande
Since GOD is defined as all properties then I am not committing that particular fallacy.

You certainly did. You said a certain object was God. That object not being God. Then proceeded to "prove" that God did not exist because that object was not on your desk. That is most assuredly fallacy of composition.

Defining something as everything is a fallacy in itself.

Then "everything" is a useless word. The set of all sets does or does not exist?

445 posted on 08/28/2011 1:41:21 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: metmom; betty boop
Proverbs 26:12 Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.

Proverbs 16:18, Pride goeth before destruction,. and a haughty spirit before a fall.

It seems the Bible understood LG long before we did. Were he to bother he would find there is much wisdom in the Bible dealing with a wide variety of subjects.

446 posted on 08/28/2011 2:27:05 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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To: LeGrande; AndrewC; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; metmom; Matchett-PI; xzins; Mind-numbed Robot; ...
If an assertion is made without any evidence, I don't need to provide any evidence in denying their assertion.

Nihilism in a tote bag. What is your evidence for that assertion?

If your denial is without evidence, and you refuse further elaboration, then your assertion enjoys no greater status than that which you confer upon others. But, Alamo-Girl has provided you examples of cause and effect (#418), so what you allege is not true.

You are like the three-year-old boy who answers everything with “why” and imagines himself the cleverest fellow around, when you are but the faintest fart in a distant galaxy.

447 posted on 08/28/2011 2:29:56 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: YHAOS
Minor correction, if I may....(since this isn't the RF)

You are like the three-year-old boy who answers everything with “why” and imagines himself the cleverest fellow around, when you are but the faintest fart in a distant galaxy.

448 posted on 08/28/2011 2:31:56 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; LeGrande; Alamo-Girl
You are free to reject it, but to maintain credibility, you must provide a valid reason for rejecting it, other than the fact that you don't want to admit that there is a Creator who lays claim to your life.

Amen to that, dear sister in Christ!

But have mercy. Perhaps our friend is just epistemologically "obtuse".... Perhaps he didn't invest enough of his life and time in math and logic studies???

449 posted on 08/28/2011 3:11:17 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

I can well believe that.

How’d you make out in the storm?

You still have power, I see, and you were even on the worst side of it and it’s about over you right now, from all I can tell.


450 posted on 08/28/2011 3:20:29 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
How’d you make out in the storm?

Well, in general the whole thing didn't live up to its public reputation, given 48-hour (at least) coverage on ALL the TV media round-the-clock, local or national. As if nothing else of importance was going on in the world.

Meanwhile, I'm avid for news out of, say, Syria....

Be that as it may: It's been really soggy here, in Boston's Metrowest. My town is approximately halfway between Boston and Worcester, and the stormtrack passed to the West of us. Meaning: My town was on the NE "nasty" side of a hurricane — which had already been downgraded to a tropical storm before it actually got here. So we got maybe 8" of rain here — the rain started yesterday about 2 p.m., and has been continuous ever since, with heavy intermittent downpours.

We live on a hill. So I wasn't worried about flooding problems; I was worried about wind problems. I was worried that one of the mature oak trees in the front yard, or of one of the impressively tall white pines in the backyard, would fall on the house. Fortunately, the wind speeds were evidently insufficient to cause this result.

We are still standing! Both rain and wind are gone where I live, as of now.

I hope your tree — the one you referred to in a recent post — survived. Or at least didn't become a destructive missile....

451 posted on 08/28/2011 3:57:27 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

We hardly got ANY wind at all.

A real let down for a meteorologist. :)

But good news for this homeowner.


452 posted on 08/28/2011 4:26:17 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: LeGrande; metmom; betty boop; exDemMom; YHAOS; AndrewC; Alamo-Girl; Matchett-PI; xzins; ...
"I have no evidence to dispute your claim that your ‘GOD of all attributes’ is full of crap."

"..when we say that for the leftist, "nothing is sacred," we mean that ironically. For as soon as one says that, the leftist takes offense, which only proves that something is indeed sacred to the leftist, even if it is only irreverence and blasphemy. But the point is, one cannot actually be human and be unaware of the reality of the sacred, even if one idolatrously displaces it to profane objects and ideas. You can even reverse-engineer a person. Find out what is sacred to them, and you have discovered their religion."

453 posted on 08/28/2011 5:20:54 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: LeGrande; Elsie
This is a bit like Elsie's non denials of being a man.

"He's a man-man, baby!"

454 posted on 08/28/2011 7:38:43 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (See the wild curelom herds at Zion National Park!)
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To: aruanan
LOLOL!
455 posted on 08/28/2011 8:07:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
Indeed - wave functions are not intelligent agents.
456 posted on 08/28/2011 8:09:13 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Texas Songwriter; betty boop
Thank you so much for mentioning the tagline!

Truly I love to meditate on the Names of God. One of my favorite Scriptures in the meditation:

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. - Revelation 1:7-8

And because the Tetragrammaton YHWH means "He IS" we can construct a sentence consisting entirely of God's Names:

"I AM YHWH": He IS Jehovah, El Shaddai, God Almighty.

God's Name is I AM.

457 posted on 08/28/2011 8:19:59 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
Thank you so very much for your outstanding essay-posts, dearest sister in Christ!

But Feynman describes "the threshold being met" as calculatable by summing all possible paths....

But how does he/we know what paths/how many paths are possible?

But that's an epistemic problem, I suppose — a problem relating to "understanding."

So very true! And Everett actually attempted to address that meaning with his Multi-World cosmology.

458 posted on 08/28/2011 9:52:30 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
But I oh! so completely agree with the absolutely vital point you made: "the proposition is not 'Everything has a cause,' but rather, 'Everything which comes to be has a cause.'" Scientists are generally quite blind to the problems of being and existence, and their relations.

As for me, I believe that my very existence is contingent on God, that my existence is a participation in divine Being — in the I AM.

Amen!!!

459 posted on 08/28/2011 9:54:53 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Texas Songwriter
Thank you so very much for sharing your insights, dear Texas Songwriter!
460 posted on 08/28/2011 9:57:28 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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