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To: jh4freedom

So what? A birth certificate does nothing more than provide a rebuttable presumption of the facts of birth called prima facie evidence. When the evidence rebuts the presumption, the value of being prima facie evidence is voided. The digital documents proffered to prove the birth of Barack Hussein Obama are undoubted forgeries.

Any birth certificae authenticated by any government can be invalidated if and when the birth registration can be demonstrated to be fraudulent. It is no longer a question of whether or not the birth certificate is proven to be fraudulent. Now it is only a matter of time before a court or an impeachment hearing is compelled to hear a case in which the birth certificate decisively found to be a forgery. Once the birth certificate is deemed to be a fraudulent document by a competent court or other competent hearing, it will not matter how many angels, Hawaiian officials, or politicians sing the innocence of Barack Hussein Obama.


202 posted on 08/04/2011 3:47:43 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

“So what? A birth certificate does nothing more than provide a rebuttable presumption of the facts of birth called prima facie evidence. When the evidence rebuts the presumption, the value of being prima facie evidence is voided. The digital documents proffered to prove the birth of Barack Hussein Obama are undoubted forgeries.

Any birth certificae authenticated by any government can be invalidated if and when the birth registration can be demonstrated to be fraudulent. It is no longer a question of whether or not the birth certificate is proven to be fraudulent. Now it is only a matter of time before a court or an impeachment hearing is compelled to hear a case in which the birth certificate decisively found to be a forgery. Once the birth certificate is deemed to be a fraudulent document by a competent court or other competent hearing, it will not matter how many angels, Hawaiian officials, or politicians sing the innocence of Barack Hussein Obama.’

Digitally reproduced copies of official documents are legally irrelevant and they are for presentation purposes only. The only birth records that matter are the original hard copies of the long form Certificate of Live Birth and the original version of the abstract, short form Certification of Live Birth that reside at the Hawaii Department of Health.

I know of no court, no state and no action of Congress which has requested examination of the original hard copies of those records. Hawaii statutes allow for inspection of or receipt of copies of those documents by “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.” [Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18(b)]

Get a court order, see the originals.


203 posted on 08/04/2011 6:33:06 PM PDT by jh4freedom
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