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To: DiogenesLamp
I love listening to Pastor Manning, he is awesome! His speeches are like tonic for the soul! If only we could get him into prime time! :) I haven't seen this one to which you are referring, so it will give me something to look up.

Really? I assumed most birthers backed off slowly from his webcasts after he started pushing all that 9/11 truther nonsense. I was somewhat surprised when I saw his name among the featured speakers at the Birther Summit.

190 posted on 07/30/2011 12:54:51 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon
Really? I assumed most birthers backed off slowly from his webcasts after he started pushing all that 9/11 truther nonsense. I was somewhat surprised when I saw his name among the featured speakers at the Birther Summit.

I am completely unaware of Pastor Manning's Support for the truther movement. I have seen, and been emailed videos of him castigating Obama, and other videos where he explains what kind of girl Obama's mother was. I found them quite hilarious, because no one else will say such things so bluntly. I know a lot of people who have seen Manning's critiques of Obama and his mother, and have no notion of Manning supporting the truther movement.

Even if he does, as you say, support the truther movement, that does not make any of his commentary about Obama and his Mother less hilarious. In my life experience, I have found that many otherwise reasonable people will be found to have a bit of kookery about them if you talk to them long enough. In any case, i'm glad you made me aware of this. It is something I will have to keep in mind. I do however look at his webcasts more as entertainment than as a source of information.

210 posted on 07/30/2011 10:00:41 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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I think everyone is being too hard on Dakkster. Unless you've read other things from him that I missed, I don't know why you are arguing that he's an Obot. He informed me about this poem, of which I had never known previously, and I regard that as being a beneficial thing. Anyone that brings a piece of knowledge that none of us had before is helping everyone figure this thing out.

I think his claim that the poem has something to do with Madelyn Dunham is not all that far fetched. I don't however, regard it as evidence that Frank and Madelyn were having sex, (I believe there are other bits that might point in that direction. Frank was a swinger, and I suspect Stanley Amour was too. Madelyn might have been dragged along.) nor do I believe that Madelyn is one of Barry's parents. I think this conclusion is a leap of faith based on very little and highly subjective analysis of a poem. That being said, I can listen to someone's theory without getting mad at them.

To sum it up, I think he's on our side, but I think he is postulating a theory that the evidence simply doesn't support. By the Standards of some of you, *I'm* a newbie, but I am certain that not a single one of you will be able to find a single thing i've written that doesn't question Obama's birth circumstance and narrative. I believe the man is a fraud, and I suspect EVERYTHING about his eligibility and life. I just want to find out what is the actual truth, and I think most of you do as well. Let us put aside our knives and bring them out later for ACTUAL Obots.

215 posted on 07/30/2011 10:14:36 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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