That amounts to refrigerator artwork. Pretty dang expensive refrigerator art.
Posted on 07/26/2011 9:30:30 AM PDT by Shout Bits
Sorry but there’s a bunch of pictures coming from the Hubble that say you’re full of crap. The shuttle accomplished a lot. Maybe not as much as we should have accomplished in that same time frame, but still quite a bit, especially given its tiny budget. Anybody that says otherwise is either a liar or a moron, I’ll let you pick which one is you, doesn’t matter to me since both are beneath my contempt.
The original article says it was a total waste of money and a complete failure.
Again the deficiency in the shuttle ties to the early budget. The only way to get it made with the budget they had forced a higher maintenance design. It’s a classic example of saving money early so you can spend more later. Nixon didn’t like NASA, it was too associated with Kennedy and he had too much loathing of all things Kennedy. They presented multiple idea for a reusable craft to bring them into the future, he told them to proceed with the cheapest but to do it for even cheaper. He opted for a space program in name alone. But that’s still better than no space program.
My point is that the thought experiment could be done on the ground, it didn’t need to go to space to experiment. It worked to make the tang. Nothing was gained by doing it in space. If that was the most important and urgent experiment then the whole program was a playground for incompetents.
It really doesn’t matter how it got there, but the end result was a shuttle program that was far too expensive given the results achieved for the money spent. The ONLY reason it lasted as long as it did was sentimentality...politics too.
BTW...we could have put Hubble in space without the shuttle, and were it not for the ocean of money wasted keeping the shuttle far past its’ prime, we could have 50 Hubbles right now.
The engineering information management systems were given a huge boost by NASA during the Apollo project. They had to do that. There was no other way to manage that much money, that many state of the art parts, in that short of a time period. They made it happen. They proved it worked. That’s historical fact.
Yes, all this may have happened elsewhere overtime. It did happen then and there.
That amounts to refrigerator artwork. Pretty dang expensive refrigerator art.
And, maned spaceflight beyond Earth's gravity ended 40 years ago. Except to service the Hubble Space Telescope, Mankind has not been higher than low Earth orbit in the last 40 years.
It does matter how it got there. That’s how we avoid those mistakes in the future. We’ve had 40 years of a half assed space program because of one decision by Nixon, and continuing bad decisions (like not immediately beginning the design of the replacement). Sentimentality has nothing to do with why it’s lasted this long, bad decisions by 8 presidents in a row are why it’s lasted this long, they never put forth the money to start the process of replacing it. It was only supposed to be around for a decade or so, but with no new vehicle behind it it was either keep using it or end our participation in manned space.
The shuttle didn’t just put up the Hubble, it fixed it, multiple times.
Refrigerator art work?!
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thanks for proving beyond any doubt that nothing you say should ever be paid any attention to by anybody. Changing our estimate of the age of the universe, changing the theories on the expansion of the universe, completely rewriting our concept of black holes, proto-planetary disks, extra solar planets, that’s just the partial list of what we’ve learned from Hubble’s pictures. Only the stupidest person in the history of the world would call that refrigerator art. No more of your posts will be read by me, you’re a complete waste of time and bits. Good bye, good luck, hope you learn to tie your own shoes some day.
Nobody's claiming that it "would not have happened without NASA", it's just that the NASA space program provided a need for such a system to be developed as well as the funding that went into it.......
The same thing can be said about all the cutting edge technology that went into placing men on the moon, especially the propellant systems needed to just get the rockets out of our atmosphere........
So we know for certain what the age of the universe is? And Hubble provided MOST of the information that "rewrote" "our concept of black holes"? That's important why?
Adaptive optics and other earth based technologies can do most of what Hubble can do. A space based telescope is left to a few advantages in some bands of the spectrum. But those space spaced telescopes could be cheaper or smaller than Hubble to do refrigerator-art science things like look for exo-planets.
As a prior poster pointed out we'd have many of Hubble type space observatory platforms for the cost of one Shuttle.
Okay, I’ve explained this once before on the FR and this is going to be the last time.
THIS IS HOW THE PYRAMIDS WERE REALLY CREATED:
The Egyptions combined two universal laws to make moving heavy stones accross vast distances very simple:
LAW #1
LAW #2
MOVING HEAVY STONES
So, it became a simple matter of creating huge daisy chains of buttered back cats on which they could place stones. Two slaves could transport a 20 ton stone a hundred miles with very little effort over a period of 10 to 15 days on one of these daisy chained-buttered back cat skids. Using sand ramps they were able to move the stones in place.
So, let’s hear no more on this subject, this is how it was done, it was simple, required no great technological feet.
I think about that in relationship to my 18 and 16 year old sons. In their life time nobody has been more than a few hundred miles off the Earth. And the moon landings are ancient history.
Private industry invested 100X more into those systems then NASA did. Maybe 1000.
"No Way....That's Great! We've landed on the moon!!"
I got it now, private industry developed the technology and donated it to NASA........I stand corrected, thanks.
Are you dense? Are you aware of the advances in technology in the past 40 years? You think NASA played the tiniest part in that?
Yup. I made a mistake in my spelling in this article.
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