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The President just wants the rich to join in the suffering, that's all. Why is that so much to ask? Aren't we a nation in which the rich can be expected to contribute their fair share?
1 posted on 07/25/2011 1:00:00 PM PDT by jfd1776
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Disgusting. Where does this moral midget think jobs come from?


28 posted on 07/25/2011 1:22:09 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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Alright, here's one....all rich liberals(with a net worth over $250,000)must pay an immediate hypocrite tax of 40%.

..it's for "the children".

or...

STFU

That is all.

30 posted on 07/25/2011 1:22:59 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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Obama is a slogan spouting Leftist. What he seeks to fund, by confiscating the fruits of other people's labor & investment, are destructive social policies that inflict considerable hurt on all of us, including those supposed to benefit.

Why should anyone want to contribute to that.

Moreover, if you read Article I, Section 9, of the Constitution, you will see that as a result of the Sixteenth Amendment, the rich are already being taxed at far more than a fair rate. (Direct taxes were supposed to be per capita, not per income.)

It is time that people looked more closely at the whole question of what motivates contemporary tax policy. It is based more on jealousy, envy and resentment, than on fairness: "Progressive" Income Tax--Destructive Socialist Misnomer.

William Flax

31 posted on 07/25/2011 1:23:32 PM PDT by Ohioan
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The "rich" already pay the lion's share of *income* tax. It really doesn't help much. Switch to a *consumption* tax (like the FairTax) and then we'll talk about encouraging the "rich" to kick in a little extra (by buying a little extra). At least then they'll get something out of the deal as the wheels of commerce are greased. Otherwise, the cost of goods sold will rise to accommodate the impact on their lifestyles that additional taxation would have, and the little guys suffer even more as the tax is distributed to the consumers.


32 posted on 07/25/2011 1:26:32 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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The "rich" do chip in. I want the POOR to "chip in". Therefore, make the 47% of this country who pays NO INCOME TAX to start paying.

We have a two-headed dragon. Those who are "poor" rely on the government for their well being through welfare, assistance, etc. AND anyone who are making money are not taxed.

Cut off both heads and return the Country to a place where good men, through their democratic REPUBLIC sought to provide a safety net for the "weak and the poor" as defined by Sumner in "The Forgotten Man."

And from that great essay...

"Now you know that "the poor and the weak" are continually put forward as objects of public interest and public obligation. In the appeals which are made, the terms "the poor" and "the weak" are used as if they were terms of exact definition. Except the pauper, that is to say, the man who cannot earn his living or pay his way, there is no possible definition of a poor man. Except a man who is incapacitated by vice or by physical infirmity, there is no definition of a weak man. The paupers and the physically incapacitated are an inevitable charge on society. About them no more need be said. But the weak who constantly arouse the pity of humanitarians and philanthropists are the shiftless, the imprudent, the negligent, the impractical, and the inefficient, or they are the idle, the intemperate, the extravagant, and the vicious. Now the troubles of these persons are constantly forced upon public attention, as if they and their interests deserved especial consideration, and a great portion of all organized and unorganized effort for the common welfare consists in attempts to relieve these classes of people. I do not wish to be understood now as saying that nothing ought to be done for these people by those who are stronger and wiser. That is not my point. What I want to do is to point out the thing which is overlooked and the error which is made ill all these charitable efforts. The notion is accepted as if it were not open to any question that if you help the inefficient and vicious you may gain something for society or you may not, but that you lose nothing. This is a complete mistake. Whatever capital you divert to the support of a shiftless and good-for-nothing person is so much diverted from some other employment, and that means from somebody else. I would spend any conceivable amount of zeal and eloquence if I possessed it to try to make people grasp this idea. Capital is force. If it goes one way it cannot go another. If you give a loaf to a pauper you cannot give the same loaf to a laborer. Now this other man who would have got it but for the charitable sentiment which bestowed it on a worthless member of society is the Forgotten Man. The philanthropists and humanitarians have their minds all full of the wretched and miserable whose case appeals to compassion, attacks the sympathies, takes possession of the imagination, and excites the emotions. They push on towards the quickest and easiest remedies and they forget the real victim."

http://www.swarthmore.edu/SocSci/rbannis1/AIH19th/Sumner.Forgotten.html

35 posted on 07/25/2011 1:28:45 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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I will be the brave conservative! All you limo-socialist - chip in now! Do your duty to Hitler, Marx and Mao!


36 posted on 07/25/2011 1:30:38 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Pelosi, Kerry, and Warren Buffett are rich. I'm waiting for them to lead the way by voluntarily paying higher taxes.
38 posted on 07/25/2011 1:34:35 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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In one European country the rich pay 72%. In income tax, that is. All the other taxes are not included in that.

I bet you think THAT’s fair, huh?


39 posted on 07/25/2011 1:35:58 PM PDT by bergmeid (FUBO)
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41 posted on 07/25/2011 1:38:52 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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I have a cousin, who at 49, the only job she has had was baby sitting others' kids. Her husband, who she met when he was a carnival worker, has worked in factories for maybe up to $13 an hour.

They have refused to pay Dr and dentist bills, because they have no insurance and no money, and cry poor about everything, and say that the government should help them because they're poor, and thats what taxes are for. Meanwhile, with an income of about $26k, with the EITC, they got a "refund" from the government for $9+k, about $5k more than they paid in.

Here it is July, 4 months after getting their "refund" they've bought ANOTHER computer, but have no money for property taxes.

They have a motorcycle, a fishing boat, 2 campers, about 4 computers, all on about $26k a year.

I work 60-70 hours a week. Pay all my bills, try to save and plan for the future, and am by NO MEANS "rich". I've never had a boat or motorcycle or camper. I'm on my second computer, after my first one died after 10 years of use

And now other people EXPECT me, or people like me, to carry others like my cousin and her family.


43 posted on 07/25/2011 1:43:41 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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I’m calling for the POOR to pitch in and pay their fair share, which while debatable is certainly greater than the nothing they pay now.


45 posted on 07/25/2011 1:43:47 PM PDT by nina0113
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The 40-some% of the population that presently pays ZERO income taxes needs to share in the sacrifice, step up to the plate and get some skin in the game. Start at $10 a week...


48 posted on 07/25/2011 1:46:35 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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Nice job on this.

Ubanga’s constant whining for a “balanced approach” has cracked me up from the beginning. It’s like he’s saying, “Hey, my Democrats are going to have to get by with a little less free stuff, and so to balance it out you Republicans are going to have to pay more taxes.” LOL, yeah, that’s “balanced”.

The audacity of that freaking dope..!


49 posted on 07/25/2011 1:49:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Warren Buffet is on record as saying his secretary pays more taxes than he does.
So I call on all the very wealthy Democrats to “pitch in”, first. Demonstrate some real leadership.
The ability to pay more than one owes has always been there and yet these people do not choose that option. It’s time they did. Buffet, Soros, Bloomberg, Kerry, the Clintons, Jobs, et all.

Oh, and Warren, while you’re at it, loan your secretary your tax attorney and pay for his time. It’s the least you can do.


50 posted on 07/25/2011 1:50:28 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism is the greed of the poor and the polticians who exploit them.)
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Having actually read the article, I would suggest that the writer is correct. If the government just go out of the way, the rich would really do something to help the country. They would fire up the engines of growth.


52 posted on 07/25/2011 2:15:13 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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Taking more from the private sector is stupid.

Taking more from those who employ and invest is even stupider.

Tax increases get passed on to the consumer, with the economy lacking consumer demand, this is also stupid.

Time for the federal government to “chip in”.


57 posted on 07/26/2011 4:32:16 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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