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To: Beowulf9; AustralianConservative; garjog

Thanks to Freeper Garjog for the following - you may find it interesting:

“This is exactly the kind of tactic Al Qaida would think up.” Satin Doll

Garjog: Several factors make me wonder if he was linked to Islamic terror groups after all:

1. Methodology of attack had a two-part Mumbai-like signature characteristic of AQ — Bombing followed by sniper attack.

2. Norway has a Islamic terror problem. Just last year a bombing plot was foiled. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10554523

3. Last week a Radical cleric in custody threaten to kill politicians. http://news.yahoo.com/norway-charges-radical-cleric-death-threats-125824880.html

4. Deception is a stratagem of war. Breivik lied to lure the kids near. Parts of the manifesto are lifted from other documents. Plagiarism is a form of lying. If part is lifted, none may be authentic.

5. In the manifesto he speaks of “contacting investors.” Muslim?

6. AQ has made recruiting “blond, blue eyed” westerners a priority. If they did, they would be expected to make an attack by such a terrorist look like it was inspired by the “right wing”to play into liberal media desire to find examples of “Christian” terrorists. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328967,00.html

7. Breivik could be like Timothy McVeigh who has been linked to AQ. http://www.jaynadavis.com/highlights.html

8. He excuses the “minor sin” of sex with prostitutes because of the “grace” he will gain from being a martyr. That is an Islamic doctrine.

9. AQ has been training westerners at terror camps in Pakistan. The shootings seem to require professional military training.

10. In the manifesto he reveals that his best friend while growing up was a Pakistani Muslim. While he derides Muslim gangs, he could be lying. He may have been converted to Islam as a youth. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.suspect.profile/index.html

11. The Facebook page is in English, he has no friends and was recently posted. Looks like a diversion.

12. The scale of attacks and threats by Islamic terror groups is far greater than any other threat. More than 99 percent of attacks have been by Muslims. So, at first glance we have a 99 percent chance to suspect jihad here as well.


19 posted on 07/24/2011 7:01:11 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll
This list tries very hard to make the facts fit the conclusion. Like the logical plot-discovery sequence from Black Dynamite, if you happened to have seen that.

When in doubt, go with Occam's Razor. The most likely explanation is that this guy is what he appears to be. A very ardent pro-Norwegian cultural fanatic, who studied Islamic extremism enough to know they were winning, and who decided to turn their own tactics against them.

European culture is dying. It stands to reason that at some point, people this desperate will start appearing more and more. If his tactics look like Islamic extremists, well, guess what? They're the ones who have been working on asymmetric warfare for years. If you're one man looking to go out in a blaze of glory for insert-your-cause-here, then, that would be the place to read up on how it's done.

It would be lovely to think that our side is always chivalrous, tough and angelic, and the other guys are not just evil, but cleverly mastermindedly behind-every-dark-deed evil, but real life is more complicated than that.

20 posted on 07/24/2011 7:29:24 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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