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To: Texas Fossil

Granted, the Norwegian Grand Lodge had nothing to do with this, and I’m sure they were sincere in expressing their compassion for the victims and their families. And I agree with you, the man was a nutcase.

However, it is obvious from the video he made his Knights Templar Masonry must have been his primary motivation. I lost count of how many times he flashed pictures of so called “Christian” Knights Templars with swords raised “in the name of the cross of Christ.” The real Knights Templars were not shy about killing “in the name of Christ.” You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to connect the dots with what happened in Norway.

Were this man a real Christian he would have let this be his motivation and not Knights Templar Masonry:

2Cor. 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds.


46 posted on 07/24/2011 12:14:39 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas
The real Knights Templars

Hmmm Interesting subject. Do you know how they were disbanded? Beginning on Friday October 13th 1307.

I am a Blue Lodge Free Mason. Nothing more, but anything more is a matter of more recent things.

Membership? That is no secret in the U.S. In England that is another matter. There were reasons for secrecy of membership at a time. Those times could come again, but in the U.S. it has been a long time since that was an issue.

49 posted on 07/24/2011 12:34:32 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: sasportas
I'd say you have a good fix on this as far as the information we have that's out there. I'm not convinced he's insane. “Belief” is a powerful force within us. Thus far I am convinced this man “believed” in what he wrote.

There are many people today who “believe” in many things...but believing doesn't make it a reality. New Agers believe they experience asto-flight...trying to convince them it's all in their brains and why is fruitless. The imaginations of men can create amazing illusions which simply are not real.

I think Breivik genuinely “believes” in his agenda...and likely expected at some point to be a leader in it. Unable to convince others who might have joined him, and given him a leadership title and the recognition he desired, he began planning to start the ball rolling....thus the bombing and the killing of those who would one day carry on the Marxist agenda.

It is very telling he did not shoot at the helicopter hoovering over him. That he had sent out his video...and now plans on divulging his reasons for doing what he did Monday before the Judge. Further that when the police shouted his name he offered no resistance but stepped right out.....I suspect he anticipates the media coverage as this progresses to get his message out there.

53 posted on 07/24/2011 1:44:36 AM PDT by caww
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