Posted on 07/19/2011 3:13:59 PM PDT by libertarian neocon
There has been quite a hullabaloo over the "Gang of Six" plan that was just announced today with even Obama calling it "good news". Unfortunately, it's a complete waste of time. First, it's a little bit unclear how much all six of the "Gang of Six" is actually behind the plan as Tom Coburn, supposedly one of the six, just released a budget proposal that cuts $9 trillion from the deficit in 10 years, compared to the plan's paltry $3.7 trillion. Second, it will have no impact on the current debt limit talks as it is pretty much nothing but an outline, as Dick Durbin admitted. Third, it is so back-end loaded that I don't see how it gets through the House (it also has to start in the House because it raises taxes). Supposedly it is in two parts, a $500 billion down payment of "immediate cuts" (in Congressional terms, "immediate" means 10 years) with "comprehensive" reform coming later. $500 billion averages out to $50 billion a year. Considering we will have a $1.6 trillion deficit this year according to the White House, this is a paltry sum, about 3%. That pretty much puts this down payment in sub-prime land. And fourth, it's not a very good plan at all. Now, let's take a look at the "immediate" section of the plan:
Do you see any actual cuts there? Any at all? For every dollar we are taking in, we are spending $1.50 and all these guys can come up with are caps on spending and changing the way CPI is calculated (which might not even reduce the deficit if inflation is higher than current estimates)? This is such a non-serious festering turd of a cost cutting plan.
And now let's go to the "comprehensive" section of the plan which begins with:
I also don't understand the need to "reform" charitable giving deductions. Isn't giving to charity a good thing? Does the government really think it has better use for that money? That it somehow is more efficient? Don't make me laugh.
On the mortgage interest deduction, I do understand that it is a big line item but reforming it or getting rid of part of it isn't the answer. Mortgage interest has been deductible since the first federal income tax law in 1913. Over the course of the last almost 100 years, it's made houses at the same price point more affordable than they would otherwise be, hence acting as a tailwind on housing prices. Basically, because buyers could afford to pay more, sellers have generally sold their houses for more. So I don't think any of us today are actually been benefiting from it the way we think we have. If it were never enacted, real estate prices would be lower across the board, probably putting your monthly payment around where it is now, with the deduction. So the house you might have paid $400,000 for, would actually have been $300,000 without the deduction. So while we probably have not benefited from it, cutting it would have a disastrous impact. Housing prices would immediately take a hit as they would become less affordable. This would send many homeowners underwater or further underwater, making any sort of refinancing impossible. Also, banks still have quite a bit of mortgage debt on their books, so any change in the mortgage interest deduction would have an immediate impact on banks and would probably cause ANOTHER banking crisis. Seriously, it's amazing how these politicians don't think things through. Now on to the next and final "reform" that I want to comment on:
As you can see, the plan is a completely idiotic monstrosity that probably will end up doing more harm than good. Luckily, it's only an outline at this point and has just about zero chance of going anywhere (hopefully).
Anyone who supports this huge $3 trillion tax grab “plan”, and that includes anyone posting on this site, is not a conservative.
Coburn, Chambliss, Crapo and Alexander are all now unmasked as big taxers for the Momma State.
One thing that NOBODY has seen, is the “plan” being offered by the current occupant of the Oval Office.
When Mayor Daley of Chicago (the original fat-potato, Dick, not Junior) wanted to scourge somebody, he would ask, no, DEMAND, “Where’s your plan?”
It is a truism that you cannot beat something with nothing.
Gang of What???
They need to be called the “Gang of Sellouts”.
I’m wondering how many times Obama is going to count that $500 billion cut he has already counted twice, in cuts to medicare? I think he’s going for number three...
Obama plan “tax tax tax spend spend spend”
The plan will attack tax breaks for mortgage deductions.
Yeah, that’ll really help the middle class and the real estate market.
“Gang” and Dick Turbin. Sounds about right.
I guess each Senator got a page, 6 pages will solve our Debt problem.
“$50 billion a year”
Obama is giving more than that to the Palestine Authority, which probably run by Hamas now.
Well he isn’t giving that much to the Palestinian Authority but any amount is still too much. Why are we rewarding terrorism again?
“Why are we rewarding terrorism again?”
Good question.
Besides the Palestinian Authority, Obama gives to other terrorist countries. Instead of threatening seniors, and military personnel, why doesn’t he tell our enemy countries, not to mention Planned Parenthood, and his other pet organizations, that they might not get THEIR tax dollars (stolen from the American people).
At least seniors paid into the system, and they are good Americans.
He should probably also tell the IMF that we won’t be paying $20 billion to bailout Greece, an amount we are now on the hook for after the latest Greek bailout. Why are we mortgaging our future so Greeks can retire at 50?
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