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The Not So Obvious Lessons From The Casey Anthony Trial Some things to think about.
Psychology Today ^ | 7-13-11 | Joe Navarro

Posted on 07/17/2011 1:14:20 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary

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To: octex; caww

No evidence that links Casey to the death of her daughter.

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Circumstantial evidence is still evidence. And there was a lot more proof other than the partying against her to prove she killed her daughter.

You sound like one of the jurors.


81 posted on 07/18/2011 7:51:30 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: MizSterious

Well said.


82 posted on 07/18/2011 7:54:19 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: MizSterious
Notice how idiots here and on tv always wave a wand and say “no evidence” and NEVER discuss the evidence, not one bit of it.

“I wanted more” to borrow foremoron’s words, from this jury. I wanted a respectable length of deliberations. No way could they have gone through even 10% of the evidence. BTW, newbie freepers, like Upchuck not OK, who trolled in just today, are probably part of a pr blitz paid for by guess who.

I am willing to forgive the jurors and offer them a free trip to our local aquarium to view other jelly fish.

The case, from a logical standpoint can be reasoned fairly easily on just one piece of evidence: the unique duct tape. Yes, truthkeeper there is tons of other evidence, but I would convict murder in the first on the tape alone Why? The unique tape boils it down to the 4 Anthony's having access to it. Cindy can be eliminated from her first call_either that or you've got to believe she deserves a sidewalk award in Hollywood.

George can be eliminated based on his actions and testimony. What person would go to the ends of the earth in searching post 7-16?

Truthfully, Lee neither through testimony or actions is that compelling to discount as a possible suspect, but Casey claimed she talked to Caylee and so the only possibility could be that she was covering for Lee.

Again, I'm only dealing with ONE piece of evidence, as well as the demeanor and actions of the rest of the family. If Lee were involved, then Casey in claiming she spoke to the deceased Caylee would be willing to face the death penalty rather than giving up her brother. Right.

I'm forever done with Whorealdo and Hannity on this one, and Levin better allow some rebuttal for his uninformed remarks as well.

I saw the whole trial as I was recovering from broken ribs and various other injuries perpetrated by a sweet looking couple in their mid twenties.

83 posted on 07/18/2011 8:51:56 AM PDT by at bay ("We were all in agreeance of that."--slutmom jury foreman, Larry Mokirlyjo)
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To: at bay

I am willing to forgive the jurors and offer them a free trip to our local aquarium to view other jelly fish.

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That is funny!


84 posted on 07/18/2011 9:03:00 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: CharlesOK; Toespi; at bay; MizSterious

The prosecution couldn’t prove who committed the murder, or even that it was a murder.

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Yeah, because 3 year olds duct tape their face, wrap themselves in plastic bags, duct tape THAT, then throw themselves in the swamp every day. /sarc

I am so sick of these idiots. No wonder RINOs get elected!


85 posted on 07/18/2011 9:06:40 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: at bay

What could have made this case more compelling from the prosecutor’s standpoint is being able to make the Susan Smith analogy that jurors might relate to, even though they don’t understand it. Hopefully some of those imbeciles on the jury would remember Susan Smith having drowned her sons to have a shot at shacking up with the town’s rich kid.

Probing examination of her bf Tony Lazzaro and others might have revealed what those of us who followed all sources of info know—she was desperate to hold on to Tony and he had not allowed, and wouldn’t allow Caylee to even spend one night at his apartment.

Photos of partying just didn’t cut it for motive. And that’s partly because it wasn’t good enough motive. Not that motive is an element of the crime, but try telling that to this jury.


86 posted on 07/18/2011 9:09:37 AM PDT by at bay ("We were all in agreeance of that."--slutmom jury foreman, Larry Mokirlyjo)
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To: at bay

I saw the whole trial as I was recovering from broken ribs and various other injuries by a sweet looking couple in their mid twenties

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Sorry to hear that, accident or deliberate? I hope you are feeling better. I ended up watching the whole trial because I’ve been recovering from emergency abdominal/intestinal surgery.


87 posted on 07/18/2011 9:17:50 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

They were stealing a child’s electric scooter off my property and I ran after them and they used the vehicle to injure me, assault with a deadly weapon.

When caught, they’ll look so sweet and innocent in court I’m not that hopeful for any justice there.


88 posted on 07/18/2011 9:24:27 AM PDT by at bay ("We were all in agreeance of that."--slutmom jury foreman, Larry Mokirlyjo)
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To: at bay

Their vehicle being a half ton pickup 80’s maybe Mazda, with extremely weathered paint and army or olive green color.


89 posted on 07/18/2011 9:28:34 AM PDT by at bay ("We were all in agreeance of that."--slutmom jury foreman, Larry Mokirlyjo)
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To: at bay

Keep pushing it, and keep the cops and DA on it. Also, if the scooter is valued at more than $250 some states will consider that assault during the commission of a felony.

They probably don’t have anything worth filing a civil suit over but it might be worth paying a lawyer to send them a ‘nastygram’.

I am sorry that happened to you. What is this world coming to?


90 posted on 07/18/2011 9:30:21 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: at bay; reaganaut

Prayers up for both of you, that you may have the speediest of recoveries!

at bay, honestly, I hope you can nail these jerks. Once I chased some teens down the street, trying to get back my porch swing. They didn’t think to hit me with it, luckily, but since I was on my way to work and expecting rain, I had my umbrella. I caught up with them (in heels no less) and whapped them a couple of times about the head and shoulders with my umbrella, and they dropped the swing. The police later told me I was very lucky I wasn’t the one who got hit with something. So sorry it didn’t work out as well for you!


91 posted on 07/18/2011 9:34:49 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: MizSterious

I caught up with them (in heels no less) and whapped them a couple of times about the head and shoulders with my umbrella, and they dropped the swing.

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THAT is funny! Good for you!


92 posted on 07/18/2011 10:01:11 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Toespi

Not reporting your child missing is not proof that you killed her. The prosecution couldn’t even prove how the girl died.


93 posted on 07/18/2011 10:21:26 AM PDT by CharlesOK
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To: MizSterious

I was referring to the characteristics listed on page 2 of the article. Think it is obvious he nailed the jury.


94 posted on 07/18/2011 10:30:08 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: CharlesOK

Do you tell your brain to just stop thinking at some point and/or is it just a natural occurrence?


95 posted on 07/18/2011 10:32:59 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Ditter

I think I saw her. I saw an episode of Dr Drew whose guests were people who had family members murdered or were murderers. One of the guests was Andrea Yates ex husband. I was shocked.

Andrea Yates is mentally ill. However, her husband would not help her recover. It was for religious reasons mainly. He was head of his household according to his church and pastor. Her doctors advised her not to have any more children; but he and his pastor overruled that and her medicine was not monitored. I think her insurance ran out too. He was anything but helpful.


96 posted on 07/18/2011 10:47:20 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Maybe if we ask him nicely he’ll just go away. I could welcome him to the free republic, but I could put a banner on my roof saying “Welcome Home Casey Anthony.” I elect to do neither.

I would point out to Mr. Moronsky that manner of death is not an element of the crime. Cause of death was a homicide as so eloquently and succinctly articulated by the medical examiner.


97 posted on 07/18/2011 10:58:07 AM PDT by at bay ("We were all in agreeance of that."--slutmom jury foreman, Larry Mokirlyjo)
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To: freekitty

Yes Andrea Yates is mentally ill and should remain locked up. If she is ever to be sane again she will realize what she did and probably kill herself. Her husband however is unrepentant. He is equally responsible for the deaths of those children and he should go to jail for life.


98 posted on 07/18/2011 10:58:20 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

I agree.


99 posted on 07/18/2011 11:40:18 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: caww; reaganaut; yefragetuwrabrumuy

Originally, the jury was a Saxon counterweight to Norman power. The ancient inhabitants of the British Isles did everything by committee; in fact, the word, “Thing” originally meant the ruling council, a predecessor of Parliament.

The sheriff (shire-reeve) was the “King’s Man” and usually not a local. The jury members were locals, and on the jury specifically for their local knowledge, and ability to judge witnesses accordingly. The sheriff had the power to seize property and persons, but the judgment of the jury was respected to determine guilt and settle disputes.

Nowadays, people are thrown off juries if they know any of the parties in court, in order to avoid malicious judgments. In part, this is inevitable, because the size of communities is so often so much larger than in olden days. It would be very difficult to get a jury with the local wisdom to judge using experience with the parties. On the other hand, anonymity means that all the work of informing the jury falls on the disputing lawyers, which often devolves into mere games-playing.

So, have we outgrown the jury system? Probably, but without a trustworthy alternative, nobody wants to say so.


100 posted on 07/18/2011 11:43:34 AM PDT by mrreaganaut (Hanlon's razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.)
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