[Huck]

“We're not going to be able to eliminate Social Security, we're not going to be able -- going to be able to eliminate Medicare.

He's right about that. I heard Jeff Sessions on the radio today talking about preserving SS and Medicare. That's all the proof you need. I remember George Will getting in trouble for saying as much a few years back, but he'll be proven right in the long run.

[muawiyah]

Social Security has not contributed to the deficit or the national debt. In fact, if it weren't for the government borrowing from Social Security funds the government would have defaulted years ago.

At the moment the federales have added federal employ retirement funds to the ledger of things they've borrowed.

They've done that before.

The federal government is out of control. The way to get it back into control is to force it to cease spending money it doesn't have on processes it doesn't need to handle.

[Maelstorm]

Yes we will if there is no money to be had. If things hit the wall the house will come down. Stein and Will needs to stop thinking of liberal policies as inevitable.