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To: wintertime
There has **never** been a good government school. ***ALL** modern government owned schools, since their inception in the mid-1800s, have been socialist-funded, compulsory for those children whose parents could not ransom them, and managed by the voting mob collective.

I know that you and I have discussed this before. But for any that may not be fully aware of the "roots" of public education in America, see:

The roots of this problem can be traced prior to Dewey:

"In 1852 when the state of Massachusetts pioneered the first program of public education in America, it decided to borrow as its model the Prussian educational system, the then reigning paradigm of educational discipline and efficiency. The designers of the Prussian system did not share Condorcet's concern with teaching children to think for themselves. The German philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte, an enthusiastic supporter of the Jacobins during the French Revolution, had been one of the spiritual architects of the Prussian system. Fichte summed up his philosophy of public education by saying: 'If you want to influence [the pupil] at all, you must do more than merely talk to him; you must fashion him, and fashion him in such a way that he simply cannot will otherwise than what you wish him to will. ... The new education must produce this stable and unhesitating will according to a sure and infallible rule.' This method of teaching no doubt produces the kind of orderly discipline necessary for mass education to work at all, and yet it is also the doctrine of education embraced by all subsequent forms of totalitarian government and eerily prophetic of George Orwell's Newspeak."


-- Lee Harris, The Next American Civil War, The Populist Revolt against the Liberal Elite
11 posted on 07/06/2011 2:52:01 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: zzeeman

The roots of this problem can be traced prior to Dewey:
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Exactly! Government schools are built on a rotten foundation of socialist force, compulsion to attend, and voter mob collectivist control. NOTHING about them has ever been “good” for the child or the nation.

It was never good to feed them lukewarm and generic Protestantism. It is even worse to teach them to think and reason godlessly now.


16 posted on 07/06/2011 3:00:31 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: zzeeman
"The roots of this problem can be traced prior to Dewey"

Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and many of their supporters also pushed for education funded and administered by government.


41 posted on 07/06/2011 5:05:17 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a thunderous avalanche of rottenness smelled around the earth.)
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