One thing is for certain, the closet DUmocrats on this forum will never fail to keep exposing themselves. They just can't help it.
Give 'em enough time to feel emboldened and these asshats will be saying Woodrow Wilson was a great President.
Posted on 07/04/2011 6:57:54 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
Makes for a good revisionist history, but unfortunately there’s entirely too much documented history that tells another story.
About 6%.
Your attempt to shift blame is duly noted. lol, Btw, the truth is that after 1800 the South was never a very viable market for the African slave traders.
Mannix, in Black Cargoes, states, "The slave trade in New England, as in Lancashire and the English Midlands, provided much of the capital that helped to create the industrial revolution." Even after the slave trade was banned one of the larges and most profitable industries in New York City was outfitting slave ships. The British consul reported in 1862 that of the 170 slave trading expeditions outfitted in New Yrk City in the previous three years, at least seventy of them had sailed directly for Africa.
In 1859, a NY newspaper called the Continental Monthly editorialized that "The number of persons engaged in the slave trade and the amount of capital embarked in it exceed our powers of calculation. The City of New York has been, until late, the principal port in the world for this infamous commerce; although the cities of Boston and Portland are second to her."
In April 1861,, off the coast of Africa, Lieutenant John Guthrie of the USS Saratoga boarded the Nightingale, a slave ship outfitted in New York City owned by three wealthy New Yorkers. Guthrie found 961 slaves in the hold, a cargo worth about a million in 1860 dollars--had all of them survived the Atlantic crossing. Guthrie returned the slaves to Liberia. When the Saratoga docked in America, Guthrie learned that his native Virginia had seceded from the Union. The man who had freed nearly a thousand slaves from the clutches of the New York slave traders followed his conscience and joined the Confederate Navy.
As his son, J. Julius Guthrie states, "Thus it will be seen that the last capture of a slaver was by a Southern officer and the good people of [the Northern States] were engaged in this nefarious business at the beginning of our un-happy war."
Same thing NS thought.
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Most DUmmies I’ve seen on FR seem to flock like moths to CW threads to post anti-Lincoln screeds
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Oh please, DUmmies LOVE Lincoln. He’s their big government hero. Nobody needs to twist the truth about Lincoln, his own words say it all. What a guy!
Abraham Lincoln Quote
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”
by:
Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
Source:
Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)
He was a tyrant. No school teacher will ever tell you that he ordered the attacks of several CIVILIAN targets. They will never tell you about all the times that he acted without or completely against congressional approval . He cared nothing for the black race. He used them, did not consider them equals. He freed them only to use them for help in a war he was losing and for voting power. Booth was absolutely correct in everything he said about Lincoln. He should be buried in an unmarked grave and history set straight with respect to this abomination in human form who was, indeed, a lying, racist, cheating, tyrannical bastard.
My posts regarding Robert Ingersoll Green summed up your argument. He was correct in his summation of those who adore the confederacy or admire Booth. They have no place within this republic and are enemies of everything which the Constitution stands. Thanks for choosing sides.
Regarding your often taken out of context post, you fail, like the other revisionists to include the remainder of his response...
“I have never said any thing to the contrary, but I hold that notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence-the right of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas that he is not my equal in many respects, certainly not in color-perhaps not in intellectual and moral endowments; but in the right to eat the bread without the leave of any body else which his own hand earns, he is my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every other man.” October 13, 1858
“A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure permanently half slave and half free ... I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.” - Abraham Lincoln, June 1858
http://www.nps.gov/liho/historyculture/debates.htm
You’ll bear greater results talking to a sun-soaked, overripe melon than this one RM. At least some of the Lost Causers construct arguments - typically poor ones - but at least arguments.
“I agree with Judge Douglas that he is not my equal in many respects, certainly not in color-perhaps not in intellectual and moral endowments;”
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Guess Lincoln didn’t think too much of them. “They aren’t equal in intelligence” = I think they are stupid. “They aren’t equal morally”. Now what if Bachman came out and said that, or Palin? OMFG all hell would break lose.Lincoln was an evil man...no better than any other Al Quaeda terrorist and Sherman, Bin Laden x 1000000.
I don’t admire Booth. If he was inclined to do what he did, I wish he would have waited a year or so and I’ll let you figure out what that means.
Like I said, you ignorant fools always prove yourself to be exactly what I said you are, removing all doubt.
“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.” - Abraham Lincoln
You go out of your way to twist facts and push your anti-Constitution agenda by taking words out of context and assigning some extra meaning to them that doesn’t exist. You heap praise onto assassins deeds in the murder of an American President, while in the same breath, damning those who fought against the treasonous assasins. How you lost cause closet democrats have any credibility left here is astounding.
“That is the real issue. That is the issue that will continue in this country when these poor tongues of Judge Douglas and myself shall be silent. It is the eternal struggle between these two principles-right and wrong-throughout the world. They are the two principles that have stood face to face from the beginning of time; and will ever continue to struggle. The one is the common right of humanity and the other the divine right of kings. It is the same principle in whatever shape it develops itself. It is the same spirit that says, “You work and toil and earn bread, and I’ll eat it.” No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth of a king who seeks to bestride the people of his own nation and live by the fruit of their labor, or from one race of men as an apology for enslaving another race, it is the same tyrannical principle. I was glad to express my gratitude at Quincy, and I re-express it here to Judge Douglas-that he looks to no end of the institution of slavery. That will help the people to see where the struggle really is. It will hereafter place with us all men who really do wish the wrong may have an end. And whenever we can get rid of the fog which obscures the real question-when we can get Judge Douglas and his friends to avow a policy looking to its perpetuation-we can get out from among that class of men and bring them to the side of those who treat it as a wrong. Then there will soon be an end of it, and that end will be its “ultimate extinction.”
Abraham Lincoln - October 13, 1858
The melon would prove to be wiser and listen better than the lost causers.
Yep. That says it all in a nutshell:)
Speaking of overripe melons...
One thing is for certain, the closet DUmocrats on this forum will never fail to keep exposing themselves. They just can't help it.
Give 'em enough time to feel emboldened and these asshats will be saying Woodrow Wilson was a great President.
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