The Four Most Likely Ways You Can Die If The SHTF

SHTF Plan ^ | 6-30-2011 | Tess Pennington

[AppyPappy]

BRAINS!!!!

[dennisw]

bttt

[blam]

A Doctor's Thoughts On Antibiotics, Expiration Dates, And TEOTWAWKI, By Dr. Bones

"Studies performed by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) revealed that 90% of medications tested were perfectly fine to use 8-to-15 years after the expiration date. There was apparently no danger in the grand majority of cases. The FDA tested more than 100 medications, both prescription and non-prescription, and continues to study the issue today."

[Mad Dawgg]

I have built and tested several "Water Distillers" they work flawlessly and will work using any type of heating source. (I buy used pressure cookers at yard sales and flea markets and use flexible copper tubing and a five gallon plastic bucket to make the "sump".)

I am told they will also double as liquor distillers which may come in handy as well if TSHTF.

[RandallFlagg]

Because, you just never know....

[Kartographer]

PING!

[baddog 219]

[ixtl]

Ping!

[hattend]

I guess when TSHTF I will have to break into the local pharmacies and get my wife a few years worth of pain pills and myself diabetes and hypertension meds.

Hope nobody else thinks of that [rolls eyes]

[catman67]

Read “One Second After”. It’s a pretty sobering assessment of such a scenario.

[MrB]

This was studied by the US Army in coordination with the FDA and was called the “Shelf Life Extension Program” or SLEP.

They classified the information so that the general public cannot see the results, but the 15 year conclusions got out before they pulled all access to the findings.

See their statement/warning/threat here:
http://www.usamma.army.mil/dod_slep.cfm

There are probably several reasons for withholding the conclusions - number one being the pharma’s bottom line.

And even that bit of info about tetracycline causing renal failure if it was taken past expiration has never been studied. There was one case where a person died of renal failure and they found that he had taken expired tetracycline, but that is not a determinative cause/effect relationship.

[dangus]

Why is distillation more important than simply boiling? Are there scenarios which imagine massive quantities of nonbiological contaminants? Or simply poisonous biological byproducts, like tomain (sp?)

[headsonpikes]

“Going Amish When TSHTF” placemarker.

[Mad Dawgg]

"Why is distillation more important than simply boiling?"

Distillation is superior to boiling because it can eliminate biological and many other contaminents such as heavy metals and other toxins.

Usually boiling water won't do such.

[CholeraJoe]

There are several biologic agents that are heat-resistant, for example botulinum and anthrax spores, and S. aureus exotoxin. It takes at least 280 degrees F to for 20 minutes to kill them. Boiling under pressure is the only way to achieve those temperatures. That’s why non-acidic foods like tomatoes or other vegetables have to be canned in a pressure canner rather than a simple boiling water bath.

[blam]

"And even that bit of info about tetracycline causing renal failure if it was taken past expiration has never been studied. There was one case where a person died of renal failure and they found that he had taken expired tetracycline, but that is not a determinative cause/effect relationship."

I've read that the worst effect was stomach cramps and diarrea. Stop taking the tetracycline and both problems went away by themselves.

[Renegade]

1 drop bleach /gal. helps also

[ProudFossil]

Will somebody please explain to me what a zombie is? Is Haitian voodoo going to become rampant after TSHTF? And why should they only want to eat brains? I think there is a lot of nitwits or crazies out there.

[dangus]

Botulinum! I said tomain, but was thinking botulinum.

Uh, CHOLERAJoe??? Hrmmm...