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On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs -LTC Dave Grossman (ret) - (excellent!)
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Posted on 06/29/2011 1:46:17 PM PDT by STARWISE

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Exclusive: Terrorists’ Plans For Mass Murder At American Schools FSM ^ | 02,16,07

1 posted on 06/29/2011 1:46:23 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; seekthetruth; ...

.. Ping!


2 posted on 06/29/2011 1:51:26 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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From above link.

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Exclusive: Terrorists’ Plans For Mass Murder At American Schools

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Grossman, the popular law enforcement motivational speaker, and Todd Rassa, a trainer with the SigArms Academy and an advisory board member for The Police Marksman magazine, shared a full day’s agenda on the danger to U.S. schools.

Should we be surprised?

Not when Al-Qaeda has publicly asserted the “right” to kill 2,000,000 American children, Rassa explained, and has warned that “operations are in stages of preparation” now. Rassa played videotapes confiscated in Afghanistan, showing al-Qaeda terrorists practicing the takeover of a school.

The trainees issue commands in English, rehearse separating youngsters into manageable groups and meeting any resistance with violence. Some “hostages” are taken to the rooftop, dangled over the edge, then “shot.”

“Any place that has given [Islamic terrorists] trouble, they’ve come after the kids,” Grossman said. Muslim religious literature, according to Rassa, states clearly that the killing of children not only is “permitted” in Islam but is “approved” by Mohammed, so long as the perpetrators “are striving for the general good” as interpreted by that religion.

He cited actual recent instances in Indonesia where girls on their way to school have been beheaded and in other countries where children have been shot, mutilated, raped or burned alive.

In this country this year [’06], Rassa said, there have been several school bus-related incidents involving Middle Eastern males that raise suspicion of terrorist activity.

These include the surprise boarding of a school bus in Florida by two men in trench coats, who may have been on a canvassing mission, and the attempt in New York State by an Arab male to obtain a job as a school bus driver using fraudulent Social Security documents.

The latter gave an address in Detroit, home to a large colony of fundamentalist Muslims.

Rassa stated that floor plans for half a dozen schools in Virginia, Texas and New Jersey have been recovered from terrorist hands in Iraq.

Our nation was gripped by the “massacre” at Columbine High School a few years ago, committed by two deeply troubled students. As tragic as that was, imagine what several more truly fanatic and lethally-trained illegal alien terrorists could do in one of our schools. It has already happened in other schools to other people’s children, and you must read it to believe it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1786830/posts


3 posted on 06/29/2011 1:56:26 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

BTTT


4 posted on 06/29/2011 2:06:51 PM PDT by E.G.C. (Edward's Soft Rock Playlist: On Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/my_playlists?p=A7A56731DE671E6A)
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To: STARWISE

This is a very good article.


5 posted on 06/29/2011 2:11:10 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

If you haven’t heard this man speak, you are missing out. He’s brilliant.

RLTW


6 posted on 06/29/2011 2:13:24 PM PDT by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: freekitty

Sure packs a wallop.


7 posted on 06/29/2011 2:14:33 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Fascinating. I wish he’d spend a bit more time discussing sheepdogs that aren’t LEOs, though. He mentions that sheepdogs that attack the herd are quickly cast out, but that is becoming less and less the case. Cops are starting to slaughter the herd.


8 posted on 06/29/2011 2:28:26 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Sadly possible, in today’s environment.

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Grossman’s website:

http://www.warriorsciencegroup.com/

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Articles:

http://killology.com/publications.htm#articles
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Current presentations and training sessions

http://www.killology.com/presentations.htm
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Criminal justice news summary 6-28-11 and previous

http://www.warriorsciencegroup.com/criminaljusticenews/


9 posted on 06/29/2011 2:36:19 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Cyber Liberty

“Cops are starting to slaughter the herd.”

Considering the numbers of LEO’s, that is a pretty sweeping statement...and untrue. The “bad apple” count is pretty low, in percentage, in real life and pretty high in, well, Hollywood and major media.


10 posted on 06/29/2011 2:56:02 PM PDT by jessduntno (Liberalism is socialism in a party dress. And just as masculine.)
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To: STARWISE
I read basically the same thing in Starship Troopers ©1959.
11 posted on 06/29/2011 2:59:38 PM PDT by magslinger (Zombies make up much of the Democrat's base.)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks bump.


12 posted on 06/29/2011 2:59:56 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: military cop

bookmark


13 posted on 06/29/2011 3:09:32 PM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: STARWISE

Yep, can’t ignore the truth.


14 posted on 06/29/2011 3:09:49 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: jessduntno

I have not attended Grossman’s 8 hour lecture but I understand it is outstanding. It is generally reserved for LEO’s. However, the impact this has may be beneficial. LEO’s need to know their responsibility as sheepdogs.

Yes, some LEO’s go bad. My agency just had one go to prison this month and another under investigation. In my 31 years associated with this agency, this is a first.

I believe a great deal of the quality of LEO’s depend on the quality of the Chief or Sheriff. We currently have a Chief of unquestionable moral and integrity. I wish I could so that about his predessor. I think the current chief is paying the price of poor moral leadership of the past.

Most of all the civilian population has to hold LEO’s accountable. We can be angry but we cannot paint all with the same brush.

Again, almost all problem LEO’s can be identified easily in their backgrounds.

But to go back to civilian sheepdogs: I agree. Civilian sheepdogs are equally important. Note the CPL guy in the Arizona shooting involving the congresswoman. He is a sheepdog.


15 posted on 06/29/2011 3:11:09 PM PDT by midcop402
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To: jessduntno

It only takes a few “bad apples” to foster so much distrust the system breaks down. I am sure most of the LEOs in my hometown are swell, but a bad experience or two and I don’t trust a damned one of them. They’re screwed if they’re depending on me to help them do their jobs by being their eyes and ears.

It didn’t used to be this way...but now I am the most unobservant “civilian” you’ll ever see. If I see a threat to life or limb, I’ll gun them down myself.


16 posted on 06/29/2011 3:14:00 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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To: STARWISE

Denial Kills- Sums it all up.I remember being taught something like He who hesitates invites the enemy to advance.Those who freeze at the sound of guns die where they stand.Run to the guns and silence them.


17 posted on 06/29/2011 3:23:27 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: STARWISE

Excellent article bump!


18 posted on 06/29/2011 3:38:37 PM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: StonyBurk; freekitty; All

Coincidentally, Glenn Beck today showed clips from Robert Kiyosaki’s video, wherein he mentions his self-protection preparation for what’s coming.

Rich Dad Advisors Discuss Food Storage for the coming 2012 Depression

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZAzBDDnhwg&feature=player_embedded#at=63

Glenn’s prescience in foreseeing these global events has truly been really stunning. I’m very grateful to him .. have learned so much .. truly eye opening insights and such a critically important and valuable education. God bless and protect him and his family.


19 posted on 06/29/2011 3:39:47 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: penelopesire

Pen, see the video above ...


20 posted on 06/29/2011 3:52:44 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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