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To: muawiyah
Try: ONE AND ONLY. Once you photograph then digitize the original hard copy for storage, that's the end of the story as far as the law goes.

"They" only have to go back to a certified copy, not to the original hard copy. I suspect the original hard copies in Honolulu county are out there in the landfill.

I don't know if anyone is insisting on the Original paper document. What we are insisting on is a Chain of custody to the original paper document. Microfiche's are still available, but if they are not, then Obama is just out of luck as far as i'm concerned. Digitized abstracts are in my mind a breaking of the chain of custody, and therefore not acceptable as proof.

If Hawaii has destroyed it's Microfiche copies, then it is run by idiots who have seriously mismanaged the records of it's citizens, rendering those records useless for certain legal requirements.

Apart from that, we have the comments from the various heads of DOH that the document still exists. Fukino described it as "half written half typed." A description that looks nothing like what has been shown, but is a good description of what a "born at home" affidavit ought to look like.

74 posted on 06/27/2011 10:02:47 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

IMHO, you are dealing in that reply with someone set to fog, confuse and obfuscate on this issue. My advice is to ignore his posts.


77 posted on 06/27/2011 10:29:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: DiogenesLamp

Under the Federal Rules of Evidence, a birth certificate is a “self-authenticating document.” (Federal Rules of Evidence Rule 902). If a birth record introduced as evidence has the state seal and the signature of the authorizing official, it’s good to go in any American court of law.
Birth certificates are hearsay evidence but fall under an exception to the hearsay rule.
If there were ever to be a legal proceeding regarding Zero’s birth certificate, depositions can be taken from Dr. Fukino, Dr. Onaka, and Loretta Fuddy, the new DOH director.
Hawaii law allows the release of a certified COPY of a birth record for inspection or possession under a court order from a court of competent jurisdiction.


81 posted on 06/27/2011 10:53:35 AM PDT by jh4freedom (Mr. "O" has got to go.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
You would appear to be unable to differentiate between "written" and "typed". It's exceedingly obvious that the COLB and the Long Form are BOTH partially in handwriting (the signatures and the rubber stamps), and "typed" ~

When you deny the obvious it becomes quite clear you have been sent here to obfuscate and disrupt.

84 posted on 06/27/2011 1:23:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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