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To: Nathanael1
I'm pretty sure what I said was a second class of citizen, but let me check....

You're splitting fine hairs. There are no "second class of citizen" in the United States. The existence of the Constitutional natural born citizen clause does not make other who are not NBC second class.

Fine, ya don't want to believe the English there, what's the only other time the word "class" appears in MvH?

Spin all you like but you're full of nonsense.

51 posted on 06/25/2011 7:15:45 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
There are no "second class of citizen" in the United States.

Say what? Let's see, you just got through telling me I'm full of guano for suggesting "class" does not mean "citizen". No you're saying there aren't two classes of citizen? Did you get Donofrio's approval before admitting that?

And since you're determined to ignore the facts, I'll spell it out for you, so everyone in this forum can see what a clumsy lout you are at logical thinking:

The word "class" appears exactly twice in MvH. Here's the first:

Disputes have arisen as to whether or not certain persons or certain classes of persons were part of the people

The second is the one you love to quote:

Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts

In the second instance Waite is clearly simply restating (and slightly expanding on) what he said in the first, albeit with slightly different wording. So if we want to know whether "class" in the second instance refers to "citizen" or "children" we need only glance up two paragraphs, where Waite explicitly says "classes of persons".

English can be such a bitch.

Now, I've shown you exactly why "class" cannot be referring to "citizen". In response all you do is tell me I'm full of nonsense without even the slightest attempt to defend your view. If you want to, you know, actually provide some evidence or something, I'd be happy to discuss that, otherwise I'll just chalk up another Obot win.

54 posted on 06/25/2011 9:34:24 PM PDT by Nathanael1
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