[edge919]

Even if you misunderstood Gordon, Pryor specifically explains 'native-born' citizens, as, "those born in the United States". It's such a short quote, how could you possibly miss that?

I didn't miss it at all. It's why I showed that it is NOT legally accurate according to the Supreme Court, which said native means being born in the country to citizen parents. Why did you respond TWICE to the same post of mine?? You didn't think all the way through??

[philman_36]

...which said native means being born in the country to citizen parents.
Show me this again so I can understand better what you're getting at. Just a reply number, not a summation.

[philman_36]

249...never mind.

[philman_36]

I guess that this then is where I'm having problems.
At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
I guess I'm too literal as I don't see native born being the same as natural born. It doesn't say "These were native-born citizens or natural-born citizens...
Earlier in the decision it was stated...
In this state of things, on the 15th of October, 1872 (one of the days fixed by law for the registration of voters), Mrs. Virginia Minor, a native-born free white citizen of the United States and of the State of Missouri...
If, as you contend both are the same thing why was native-born used there instead of natural-born? It just doesn't make sense to me. They obviously have different connotations or else why use it at all?

[BladeBryan]

edge919 wrote: “I didn’t miss it at all. It’s why I showed that it is NOT legally accurate according to the Supreme Court, which said native means being born in the country to citizen parents.”

Whatever fantasies you entertain about your own constitutional scholarship, I quoted the Pryor’s article in the peer-reviewed literature of American law:

“It is well settled that ‘native-born’ citizens, those born in the United States, qualify as natural born.” [Jill Pryor, ‘The Natural-Born Citizen Clause and Presidential Eligibility’, 97 Yale Law Journal 881-889 (1988).]

The meaning of “’native-born’ citizens” there is given: “those born in the United States”. If you want to argue that there’s also another, different usage, it doesn’t matter. You were wrong to say I missed anything in citing Pryor and Gordon. You, not I, missed the meaning.