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Fracking Fantasies
Shout Bits Blog ^ | 06/20/2011 | Shout Bits

Posted on 06/21/2011 8:14:14 AM PDT by Shout Bits

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1 posted on 06/21/2011 8:14:18 AM PDT by Shout Bits
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To: Shout Bits

If regulations were energy, we would not need any other source.


2 posted on 06/21/2011 8:23:22 AM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: Shout Bits

There are probably worse chemicals used in the manufacture of windmills and solar panels.


3 posted on 06/21/2011 8:25:27 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Shout Bits

I guess I’m an enviro wacko homo communist.

Fracking uses nasty chemicals that have gotten into the local well water on too many occasions. It is a real concern.

And before you flame me I don’t think fracking causes earthquakes or is a technology we learned from crashed UFOs.


4 posted on 06/21/2011 8:32:43 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: Shout Bits

There’s a middle ground here. Complete bans are an over reaction and so is “anything goes” approaches. There will always be shoddy implementations of fracking. They need to be driven out of business. Even major firms can be shoddy, such as BP and TEPCO.

Fracking is the lesser of the evils on so many levels, but the industry must make every effort to regulate itself. Otherwise they risk over reaction like widescale bans.

Witness, Santa Barbara. New oil production is still banned there as an over reation to a spill 40 years ago.


5 posted on 06/21/2011 8:56:51 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Shout Bits

the enviros have only one goal, and that is to continually decrease and hinder production.

they don’t give a crap whether fracking is actually bad or not. they just want it to seem bad enough to shut down production....

they are going to lose this time, however.


6 posted on 06/21/2011 8:58:54 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: RadiationRomeo
Fracking uses nasty chemicals that have gotten into the local well water on too many occasions.

Source?

7 posted on 06/21/2011 9:04:31 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: RadiationRomeo
Fracking uses nasty chemicals that have gotten into the local well water on too many occasions. It is a real concern.

We can read that headline claim in any liberal publication, do you have anything meaningful to back it up?

8 posted on 06/21/2011 9:34:48 AM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: RadiationRomeo

Here’s an example from here, in PA.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/18/chesapeake-energy-handed-record-fine-for-fracking-in-pa/
Ruined wells as a result of resource extraction is routine in this area. Especially bad is strip mining, rarely does anyone win compensation as a result of these activities.
As in the Gulf Oil Spill - failure to follow SOP will result in problems. Regulation, inspection, fines and license suspension are a necessary part of the process.

As for ‘induced seismicity’, it is a consideration taken seriously by engineers during the permitting process. It seems to be a real although rare issue around waste disposal, geothermal plants and fracking operations.


9 posted on 06/21/2011 9:35:07 AM PDT by PeteCat
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To: cicero2k
New oil production is still banned there as an over reation to a spill 40 years ago.

Over reaction is the key phrase.

Just like with the BP spill...just because one rig screws up doesn't necessarily mean it's time for new regulation.

10 posted on 06/21/2011 9:40:03 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: RadiationRomeo
Fracking uses nasty chemicals that have gotten into the local well water on too many occasions.

What, where, and when.

Kindly cite examples.

11 posted on 06/21/2011 9:40:20 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: PeteCat
Ruined wells as a result of resource extraction is routine in this area. Especially bad is strip mining, rarely does anyone win compensation as a result of these activities.

Hmmm - strip mining - activity on the surface where rainwater collects.

Fracking - thousands of feet below the water table.

You are pulling a typical bait-and-switch of the anti-fracking camp. Confuse old coalmining contamination with fracking activity. The dishonesty of the anti-fracking camp is stunning at times - even here on FR.

12 posted on 06/21/2011 9:43:00 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: RadiationRomeo
Please post ACTUAL events where fracking chemicals got into ground water. Real proof and from a noted source.

You can't there aren't any. Fracking has been going on in Texas for decades.

13 posted on 06/21/2011 9:43:59 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Demons run when a good man goes to war.)
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To: Shout Bits

FRACKING IS BRILLIANT....


14 posted on 06/21/2011 9:46:10 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: PeteCat; RadiationRomeo
Maybe you didn't actually READ the article you linked:
The agency began an investigation in February 2010 after receiving complaints from residents about drinking water near Chesapeake shale gas drilling sites. The agency concluded that contamination was caused by improper well casing and cementing, allowing seepage from non-shale shallow gas formations.

Accident or trolling???

15 posted on 06/21/2011 9:48:33 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: dirtboy

Pete must have been a retread. He already got the zot!


16 posted on 06/21/2011 9:53:25 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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From the article you cited: The agency concluded that contamination was caused by improper well casing and cementing, allowing seepage from non-shale shallow gas formations.

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Chesapeake Energy, one of Pennsylvania's biggest shale gas producers, said in a statement that it will pay the fines and has improved its cementing and casing practices since the investigation.

Chesapeake suspended completion of natural gas wells in Pennsylvania for three weeks after a well blowout on April 19 sent thousands of gallons of drilling fluid spewing into the surrounding area and into local waterways.

One sloppy operator, who will likely change their ways.

I firmly believe there should be regulations--at the State Level, and they should be enforced, also by the State--which is what is being done in PA.

We frack wells in North Dakota, too, and incidents are very few.

Locations can be designed to contain spills, and short of the occasional disaster (which no one wants--believe me), there will not be a problem.

Unless and until the EPA backs off the coal generated electricity industry, natural gas is going to be the fuel that electricity comes from. Some of us heat with gas, where heat is not optional for a significant part of the year. Either way, stopping fracking would stop a lot of natural gas development, which means prices will jump for both natural gas and electricity.

I guess we could go just back to burning coal to keep warm...

17 posted on 06/21/2011 9:55:48 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: RadiationRomeo

So, tell me, how many years have you worked in the Petroleum/Gas industry?


18 posted on 06/21/2011 9:57:59 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: Smokin' Joe
I've lived up in Antracite coal country in PA.

I'll take natural gas wells any day of the week.

19 posted on 06/21/2011 9:58:15 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: RadiationRomeo

what chemicals?

do you even know?


20 posted on 06/21/2011 10:04:43 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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