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1 posted on 06/19/2011 4:31:05 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno
Interesting observations. I've also been puzzled by how the Media has been reacting to Palin lately. Mostly, they ignore her. The only exceptions are an occasional appearance on Fox News, which is typically followed by a one or two day marathon of "We hate Sarah" from everyone at MSDNC. I still think she'll jump in late in the summer, or perhaps in the fall.

How do you think Bachmann getting in affects the race? Do you think Palin might throw support behind her? I'm not sure what to make of that development.

The one thing I'm still pretty sure of is that we did not see an appearance by the actual nominee at any of the debates held so far (on Fox and CNN).

2 posted on 06/19/2011 4:42:09 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: techno

Frankly, it looks like Sarah Palin is our candidate.


3 posted on 06/19/2011 4:44:00 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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As much as I like Palin, she will only run if she can win. She cannot take a second loss and remain at the top of the conservative thought leadership.

My prediction is that if Perry becomes a serious candidate (the Gingrich hires are a big sign he will...), then Sarah will endorse him over Romney. If Sarah ran against Perry and Romney, then Romney would probably win the nomination. I would imagine that Bachmann or Ryan would be seen as Perry’s VP pick.

Sarah may run as VP again, stay as a pundit or become the Secretary of Interior/Energy or Commerce.


4 posted on 06/19/2011 4:47:00 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: techno

Good post. Well written; well thought out.

I never could get past a visceral dislike for Huckabee. He gives me the creeps.Do you consider it a possibility that if Palin does not get in, that Huck would re-enter?

Bachmann is going nowhere - we do not nominate Representatives to run for the Presidency. Cain is going nowhere.

I’m thinking the most likely scenario is Perry or DeMint in and Palin going with one of them.


7 posted on 06/19/2011 5:04:51 PM PDT by don-o (Please say a prayer for FReeper Just Lori.)
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RUN SARAH, RUN!

Sarah Palin is shaking the Democratic leftist-liberal house to its very foundation.

She, her family, their faith, their values, and their story (particularly of choosing life for their young son and then so obviously being blessed with love for that son and he for them) represent the absolute refutation of all the tired old liberal mantras and victimology and a culture of death that they malignantly use to mentally, psychologically, and financially enslave whole classes of people.

From women's rights, to family values, to gun rights, to abortion, to energy policy, to taxation, to envrionmentalism, to fundamental governing principal, to U.S. soveriegnty and independence, and on and on...Sarah Palin is a wrecking ball to the leftist, liberal, socialist house of cards.

...and the leftists, DNC, liberals, MSM, and RINOs all know it, and that's why they rant and rave on and on about her and will do anything to keep her out of this race.

9 posted on 06/19/2011 5:11:14 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Here is further statistical proof that confirms the separation between Romney and Palin vs. the rest of the field.

In two recent polls one conducted by ABC/WAPO and the other by Reuters/Ipsos the pollster asked an addition question of who the respondent’s second choice would be and then both pollsters tabulated the combined results to show the maximum each candidate had the potential to garner. Here are the results of both polls.

1)Reuters-Ipsos June 8

Combined first + second choice of respondents:

OVERALL GOP INDEPENDENTS

ROMNEY-————27%-————32%————16%

PALIN—————25%-————29%————15%

PAUL-—————14%-————15%————13%

BACHMANN-———12%-————13%————9%

CAIN-—————12%-————14%————7%

GINGRICH-———11%-————14%————5%

PAWLENTY-———9%—————10%————7%

PERRY—————9%—————10%————5%

HUNTSMAN-———5%—————5%-————5%

2) ABC/WAPO June 7

Combined first + second choices of respondents

OVERALL

ROMNEY-——————34%

PALIN———————28%

GINGRICH-—————13%

PAUL-———————12%

PAWLENTY-—————8%

BACHMANN-—————8%

CAIN-———————8%

Further proof that both Romney and Palin have separated themselves from the rest of the field.


11 posted on 06/19/2011 5:36:35 PM PDT by techno
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12 posted on 06/19/2011 5:54:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: techno

Your argument presumes that Palin does run.

I’m not saying if she is or isn’t. She hasn’t announced yet, so both possibilities should be considered.

On Palin vs Romney - I wouldn’t count Gingrich out for the Establishment vote. Is Palin strong in the South? Are Mormons popular in South Carolina? So, Romney gets more votes than Gingrich in New Hampshire. That’s a reasonable assumption. Does Romney get more votes in South Carolina than Gingrich?

What exactly has Romney done to deserve “my turn”? 2nd place finisher is one way you can get “my turn”, but not the only way. Gingrich, because of Contract with America, is more deserving of “my turn” than Romney. A Liberal one term Governor from a Liberal state. Now what happens is that, because Romney is the front runner, everyone attacks Romney.
It doesn’t have to happen yet, but everyone benefits from attacking Romney. Last time, at this time, Giuliani was the front runner, here, Thompson and Giuliani were tied for 1st, almost exactly 4 years ago.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/06/19/us-usa-politics-poll-idUSN1918714220070619

Romney is the front runner, and he can make the case that it’s his turn. Gingrich is down right now, not taking the hits that Romney is likely to take as the front runner. I’m
just saying to rule Gingrich out at any point would be a mistake. He actually did something very good for Republicans, and voters remember that. Romney hasn’t done anything.

What you’re saying is basically right though, in that it’s a race between a tea party candidate and an establishment candidate. The most likely tea party candidate is Palin, if Palin runs, but if she doesn’t, Bachmann, Paul, Cain. On the other side, a similar story, Romney is the establishment front runner, the likely establishment candidate, but any number of things can happen. No one has run a negative ad against Romney yet. One would think that knocking Romney down would be essential for every other establishment candidate. Attacking Pawlenty would be pointless. Attacking Romney certainly wouldn’t be. So, any of them could take the establishment slot, if Romney is hurt enough.
I welcome an obscure Governor as the establishment candidate. It makes it easier for the Tea Party candidate to win.


19 posted on 06/19/2011 8:36:45 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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Because Palin is delaying—texas governor what’s his name is filling the void.


29 posted on 06/20/2011 12:18:29 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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Why do you think, last spring, that Huck said he WOULD run if Palin did?


37 posted on 06/20/2011 9:37:04 AM PDT by GlockLady
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