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To: reformedliberal
Cardio is essential, and not just to run from the zombies or the thugs, but look around at the older folks and those being kept alive on medications and medical technology or the young children. Cardio is not going to help everyone.

Agree. There are many with many needs. The depression effects are here. In the last year we are now up to over 10 abandoned cats. The majority did not make it through the winter. We rescued and now have placed three. That was the sign that both bothered me and angered me the most.

There is a type of cowardice when people abandon there pets in the "country". This is also a sign of a deep rooted denial. Many Americans are going to behave very badly.

This was one area of preps that took me by surprise. We have prepared to feed others. We prepared for our family and relative's pets. We were not prepared for what happened this past winter.

Our Vet warned us it was not just dogs and cats. Horses and cattle are also being abandoned. I think this is an important sign to watch out for.
24 posted on 06/11/2011 1:21:21 PM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/AW12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: PA Engineer
There is a type of cowardice when people abandon there pets in the "country". This is also a sign of a deep rooted denial. Many Americans are going to behave very badly.

I agree. A dog is a dog, but also a member of the family. People are first, but I was raised to take care of our animals just after we take care of our people. If I have to bug out, the terrier goes with us.

But then we had a local woman burn her 3 year old in a BBQ pit because she was bored with her. So abandoning pets is not surprising.

26 posted on 06/11/2011 2:16:19 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: PA Engineer
"Our Vet warned us it was not just dogs and cats. Horses and cattle are also being abandoned. I think this is an important sign to watch out for."

Wow. In my part of the country, no cattle are abandoned. Rustling is more of a problem. As for horses, there are too many of them--more than cattle, it appears. We joke about the unprepared economic cheerleaders feasting on them, if the economy really gets out of hand.

As for dogs, any of those without something like malamute in them would freeze to death pretty quickly up here. Don't see any strays from cities.


28 posted on 06/11/2011 3:45:26 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: PA Engineer

I hear these sorts of stories, too.

Our beloved canine fur kid was a show up about 11 years ago. He was just a pup. 18 months ago we spent $2k on him after he tore a plantar tendon. There was no question, even though times are very tight for us. Actually, the surgeon and the vet both gave us massive discounts just because they know how important he is to us. He is the official greeter and escort here and is well-known throughout the area with many friends.

I have actually seen fewer abandoned cats the past few years, but that could be the work of the coyotes. We have owls and eagles, too and both predate on cats.

Still, everyone seems nervous, anxious and some are just plain scared. Preps don’t even make that much difference, IMO. I know that some days I am scared to the point where all I want to do is go to sleep. Of course, it passes and then I do some more preps.

Cats are so inexpensive to keep. Of all the domesticated pets, they are the easiest to care for. It seems so senseless to abandon them. Good for you for the rescue work.


30 posted on 06/11/2011 4:35:56 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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