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To: Fractal Trader; Ladysforest; Beckwith

“According to the Post and Email article, the researcher (FR’s own Ladysforest?) did get access to the marriage indexes and saw two entries for Stanley Ann, one for her marriage to Obama and the other for her marriage to Soetoro. Maybe you should ask her for the photos which she claimed she took?”

Actually, she didn’t take the picture. She did post the picture taken of a typed Grooms’ index which you can read about at the link below. Once again, you are confusing this index with the ORIGINAL HANDWRITTEN INDEX which shows the volume and page number where the MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE is filed. As Beckwith has said several times, too much out there is bunk unless it’s backed up with original documents (and at this point in time I wonder if even those can be trusted, i.e. LFBC). This sort of index can easily be tampered with and as you are well aware of has been the problem with all records surrounding this family. Show me the CERTIFIED COPY of the MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE and I might consider it as proof after it’s been buckhead-ed by FR.

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/extra-extra-announcing-obamas-birth/9-its-a-date-index-data-book-images/


383 posted on 06/13/2011 1:40:29 PM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

The ORIGINAL index books are completely off limits to the public. Rather, it is up to the Director to make the call - and guess what? Both researchers, TsunamiGeno and Interrogator did ask, and both were refused.

I’ll look through my stuff and see what other marriage related index images are there. Interrogator is the one that captured the images.

I will add any additional ones that I have to the bottom of the original post.


389 posted on 06/13/2011 2:13:44 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: bgill
Show me the CERTIFIED COPY of the MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE and I might consider it as proof after it’s been buckhead-ed by FR.

Exactly!

Team Obama has been getting away with murder. The simple fact is that there is not one original, official, state-issued and sealed document that confirms the facts of Obama's birth or the alleged Obama-Dunham nuptuals.

390 posted on 06/13/2011 2:20:23 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: bgill

The Archives MAY have a microfilmed copy of the ORIGINAL handwritten marriage index books. As to the certified copy of the marriage cert., you can certainly email HI and ask the steps you would need to take to obtain one.

I tried to obtain a certified divorce cert. for a Honolulu couple who had a kid same day (?) as obama, and they first were really accommodating, explaining it was kept off site, and it would take about ten days to get. Then I sent the names.

Two weeks later, nuthin. Emailed to ask status, a week later, nuthin. I forget how many emails I sent before they finally let me know they had some crap that was basically like the publicly available index data books in that it wasn’t a “full” copy of the original record, certified. It was some sort of “summary”.

I’d have to go back through my stuff. I decided against buying the “summary”.

Just for grins I once called our local vital stats office and asked if I could come in and view an index book. Basically I was told HELL NO! Here you can’t even look at your own entry.


419 posted on 06/13/2011 4:40:16 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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