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To: Nachum

Tine to get rid of a lot of nurses. If they can’t be bothered to provide water, they have no place in healthcare.


6 posted on 05/25/2011 9:56:01 PM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

How about just throwing the nurses out the windows? If they cannot be counted on to give fluids to thirsty patients, they are basically wastes of skin.

Either that, or hire more nurses. The hospitals could be understaffed.


9 posted on 05/25/2011 10:05:41 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I hate politically correct sorosmonkey superheroes!)
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To: matt04

A few years ago there was quite a dust up after a rather affluent man ‘experienced’ a hospital stay. Conditions were so bad his wife had to be creative and forceful to sweep him out of that hospital and into another. He then wrote an expose of sorts for the newspapers. He was QUITE specific about the nurses in the first hospital: “dirty, grubby hands” “unwashed hair” “unkempt, dirty uniforms” and described how EVERY nurse who had attended him had loudly spoken of her tawdry sex life with other nurses while changing bedding etc. It seems to be wage related - the pay is so low that only this type of person becomes a nurse in that hospital. At the time, the officials responsible for that hospital said all of the nurses were quite ‘gutted’ by his comments etc. Seems nothing has changed.


19 posted on 05/25/2011 10:25:54 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: matt04

nursing homes nurses are horribly overwhelmed. This is a symptom of a bad system as much as it is a bad nurse. I have worked on a floor that what would be considered a nursing home. I had 11 patients and got an admission that made 12. The admission took about 2.5 hours to complete. That left me with 9.5 hours to take care of 12 patients. That leaves me with 47.5 minutes per patient. Charting on each patient takes approximately 17 minutes each. That leaves 30 minutes per patient. Each patient gets a physical assessment. A thorough physical assessment takes about 10 minutes. That leaves 7 minutes left per patient or 84 minutes total. So, you now have 1 hour and 24 minutes minutes to safely pass medications to 12 people. That may or may not be enough time depending on the meds and the patients. Notice I haven’t mentioned a lunch, a break, going to the bathroom, or doing any kind of dressing changes, or helping people go to the bathroom, or extenuating circumstances that require calling physicians and taking orders, drawing blood, starting IVs, cleaning up poop and pee, walking up and down the halls checking patients, turning patients every two hours, obtaining vital signs, writing/taping report for the oncoming shift, talking to the patients and/or their families, etc. I have worked on other floors where I had 5 patients that were so complicated that they took even more time to deal with incidentally. Nurses are being asked to do too much. This is the healthcare system you got. Firing more nurses won’t fix it, it will more likely collapse it. I think I should have been a plumber. I would be paid more, worked less, and held to a lesser standard. Plumbers don’t go to jail when they eff up your sink installation. Nursing sucks.


35 posted on 05/26/2011 12:05:34 AM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: matt04
"Tine to get rid of a lot of nurses."

Good luck with that..there is a shortage of nurses for a reason. The good care givers are working alongside people who the facilities drag off the street to make their numbers. There are people working in these facilities that are unable to be hired anywhere else.

45 posted on 05/26/2011 2:50:54 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: matt04

In socialized health care the practitioners are in direct competition with their patients for funding. Less money spent on patients means more available for workers.

The fact doctors have to prescribe water to keep patients alive indicates the nurses are killing patients by depriving them of water.


46 posted on 05/26/2011 2:52:57 AM PDT by Justa
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