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To: ElkGroveDan

It is not a chemical, nor a substance, it is bacteria, let’s start with real facts and go from there.


6 posted on 05/25/2011 7:28:28 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
Bt is both a substance AND a chemical - it is not a bacteria - it is a bacterial toxin.

The gene to produce this toxin is taken from the bacteria and introduced into Corn Cotton and other crops.

The toxin is also used DIRECTLY as a pesticide.

Thus the study that points exclusively to GM crops as the likely source of this Bt toxin doesn't seem to want to deal with the fact that this stuff is also sprayed directly onto non GM crops.

Smells like an agenda to me.

10 posted on 05/25/2011 7:37:24 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Scythian

Precisely. Folks, Bt is Bacillus Thuringiensis. This is one of the oldest and original natural pesticide bacterias. Those Freeper gardeners/farmers know this well. The bacillus is deadly to cabbage worms/other sucking worms on fleshy leaf vegetables and many fruiting vegetables. The “toxin” is toxic to the worms.

There is considerable evidence and information on what the “toxin” produced by the bacteria, actually is chemically. It is not a heavy metal, and it is not biologically active.

What has happened is that genetically modified corn has been modified to permit this bacteria to be taken up, such that nasty disgusting (crapping) corn worms and others are killed when they try to eat the corn.
If any one has info that the “toxin” has some biologic effect... let us know. This is not even as bad as Sevin.


11 posted on 05/25/2011 7:43:00 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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"It is not a chemical, nor a substance, it is bacteria, let’s start with real facts and go from there."

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The principal fault with your bravo sierra scare post is that you have no idea WTH you are babbling about!!!.

The bacterium, Bacillus thuringiensis ("Bt") is no more a "toxin" than the mold, Pennicillium notatum is an "antibiotic".

Go take a basic seventh-grade science course before you start posting such alarmist nonsense!


33 posted on 05/25/2011 9:28:33 AM PDT by TXnMA (There is no Constitutional right to NOT be offended.)
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To: Scythian
It is not a chemical, nor a substance, it is bacteria, let’s start with real facts and go from there.

Read the freaking HEADLINE of the article. It is about the detection of so-called TOXINS. Toxins are chemicals (regardless of their origin) and that is what my post was in response to. My comments were perfectly accurate and make perfect sense. Let's start with those facts and go from there, OK?

52 posted on 05/25/2011 11:40:30 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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