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To: Herbster

Here are my questions.................

You had three years to show the short form COLB was fake.

Do you plan on doing anything differently this time?

Do you, after not doing anything different, expect a different result?

What result do you expect?

Can you paint me a scenario where this all comes up roses?


1,211 posted on 05/23/2011 7:30:37 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Let me butt in for just a second. We have had some roses already.

1) We helped SHELLACK Obama’s party in the mid-term elections. (The referendum on Obama.)

2) Without any real evidence or a single court victory, we managed to convince 58% of the country that there was some doubt where Obama was born.

3) We managed to force a sitting president to cough up his long form birth certificate without any legal requirement by using The Court of Public Opinion.

4. We have exposed the Obotski as a bunch of liars, who told us all kinds of lies. Like, for just one example” “No one can even get a long form”

5. We have caught Obama with his hand in the Cookie Jar of Divisiveness all the way up to his armpit.

6. We have exposed Obama as grossly incompetent and unable to fix a $14 document problem for 3 years.

Among other things.


1,216 posted on 05/23/2011 7:39:49 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tll it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: allmendream
Obama is now an official candidate for the 2012 elections. The only type of official that has precise legal standing to check candidate eligibility is the Secretary of State for elections in each individual state of the Union.

One or more states may or may not pass laws compelling the SOS in each state to check eligibility for POTUS candidates, but assuming no such law is passed it falls the the SOS to make the decision.

Obama has never ,as yet, produced a physical, paper legal document with an embossed seal that is a certified copy of a COLB or LFBC Birth Certificate with a valid chain of custody, to multiple independent witnesses.

If a secretary of state requires POTUS candidates to provide full documentation, that is the point where the rule of law would be applied to the Obama Eligibility issue.

It is the threat of a State passing a law to compel a SOS to check candidate eligibility that has forced Obama’s hand to act and produce something that would make a % of law makers in each state less likely to pass such a law. I personally think his gambit may be successful.

If there is no new law and a SOS is minded to require full legal documentation for POTUS eligibility, in my mind it would be inconceivable that the SOS would not consult high officials in his/her political party unofficially as to this course of action.

To be honest this is why IMHO one of the key reasons Obama wants to prevent Palin from running. If anyone is going to insist on the rule of law and the constitution’s article 2, it is a candidate Palin with *massive* financial firepower from individual American citizen donors who care very little about the republican party itself.

1,286 posted on 05/24/2011 4:41:37 AM PDT by Exmil_UK
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