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To: DrC; Red Steel; LucyT; little jeremiah
“So if BHO were using Bill Ayer’s standard method, the last person in the world he would have used is the SSN of an 87-year old. If Bill Ayers had more than a hundred IDs of babies born in 1940’s and 1950’s, how hard would it have been to obtain one of a baby born in 1961 (or used one of the 1950’s babies for BHO’s new SSN)?

“Thus, a theory that “sort of fits” at first glance seems to fall apart upon more serious inspection.”

I disagree. The claim of an 87-year-old being “associated with” that SS# seems to me to be more likely to fall apart.

First, there is no death record for this SS#, which there would be for a person born pre-1900, while there would be no death record for a 1961 CT baby who happened to die and whose identity was stolen by Ayers and given to Obama. It would be extremely risky to go with pre-1900 SS# as the basis for a SS identity which would extend post-2000!

Corrupting the SS Admin. database to enable Obama to get a new identity in 1986 would seem to require a "conspiracy theory" involving SS Admin employees during the Reagan Admin., which is not needed if Ayers used a dead 1961 (or subsequent year) CT baby for Obama who happened to have received an SS. Ayers could have applied for the SS# in 1977 himself and kept the identity alive and ready for future use, as it may have turned out... by Obama.

The “associate with an 87-year-old” speculation is based on a stray entry in a data field and is not corroborated anywhere else that I have seen with a birth date, name, location or anything.

I used to work for the Social Security Administration as a Benefit Authorizer and I can assure you that there is a lot of erroneous data in the records.

71 posted on 05/17/2011 8:13:00 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

It seems like we’re actually making the same point—that it’s quite unlikely BHO used the SSN of an 87-year old. You’re simply introducing the additional bit of evidence that this mythical 87-year old never existed in the first place.

I think that putting a nail in the coffin of this 87 year old (so to speak) also takes Madelyn out of the equation. Remember that she was invoked as the ‘explanation’ of how that specific SSN application came to be “hijacked” by BHO in subsequent years. For all the reasons I’ve stated and you’ve embellished, it makes way more sense to think Bill Ayers—not Madelyn—was the principal culprit behind fabricating false credentials for BHO.


84 posted on 05/17/2011 12:25:51 PM PDT by DrC
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