“The number originally was obtained when Barry was 15.
Where did you come up with that?”
Because the account explicitly says the number was issued in spring 1977, i.e., before Obama’s 16th birthday.
“No next of kin to report it.”
Seriously? So SS is still sending out checks to a guy who died decades ago? The government’s quite inefficient, I concede, but that scenario doesn’t pass the “sniff test.” Likewise, even without kin, the guy had to have died somewhere: in short, he had a death certificate. If he had Medicare in his dying years (that, after all, was the purported reason for his even applying for SS so late in life), then the hospital where he died most certainly would have had his SSN in its records or other parallel proof of Medicare eligibility. What motive would such a facility have had for keeping his SSN off the death certificate?
Moreover, let’s pretend the guy died in the wilderness, no hospital, no medical providers, no death certificate. Then how the hell did Madelyn Dunham know when it was “safe” for BHO to make use of the SSN she secured for him?
“M. Dunham was looking for just such a number. It would work for Barry who had a ginned up COLB that was established on her word with the state to gain Barry citizenship at (well, just after) birth. She had means and motive to do both.”
So Barry didn’t have a job prior to 1985? If so, wouldn’t he have needed an SSN? How could an employer possibly deduct payroll taxes without an SSN? But if he’d somehow managed to secure an SSN for this purpose, then where’s the need to fabricate a new one? The motive here is baffling to me.
I’m not saying there isn’t something extremely odd about this SSN and how it came to be used by BHO. But a hypothesis that involves Madelyn Dunham seems to be severely lacking in common sense. If she’d already succeeded long ago in securing a “legitimate” (or legitimate-seeming) COLB, then there’s no reason to engage in felonious criminal activity by assisting her grandson in securing a fake SSN. The COLB alone would have sufficed to “prove” to SS that he was a legitimate citizen seeking a legitimate SSN etc.
Seriously? So SS is still sending out checks to a guy who died decades ago?
I don't know if he ever received checks, he may have signed up for medical benefits because he was old. When he died the bills stopped coming. There is no evidence that Barry applied for that number, just someone did.
What motive would such a facility have had for keeping his SSN off the death certificate?
None. Who files the death certificate with SS? If the family does then there would be no one to file it.
So Barry didn’t have a job prior to 1985? If so, wouldn’t he have needed an SSN?
He claimed he worked at some ice cream shop as a kid (under the table?), other than that he was a student (foreign, 999-xxx-xxxx?) and community agitator through his twenties. He may well have not needed an SS # until then and the "typical white woman" helped him get a pretty clean one
You can do with the following as you please, but think about it. If Bernadette fabricated an identity for Barry Soetoro while they were all in New York or Boston, searching Conn. SS # files was a lot easier than searching HI files. Fabricating a false identity of such a sophistication to include date similar apps and assignments was soemthing the scum Ayers and Dohrn prided themselve in. And what if Barry bass turd really was a CIA employee for a while. Planting documents is not just a Sandy Burglar game. Ask Abercrumb, he can probably give you lots of insights into planting documents where higher-ups command they be placed.
had the same thoughts...but someone posted in the comments to the story that Obama’s grandmother would have had access to the death records and would know whether benefits were being distributed or not...and she finally found someone who died in HI that was not getting SS benefits so there would be no report to SS admin about the death