Call me a dummy, but I don’t understand the story. The number originally was obtained when Barry was 15.
Let me explain. Madelyn would have sought out a SSN for Obama that belonged to a very old gentleman who conveniently had obtained his SSN late in his lifetime. The old folks who transitioned into SS, like my parents who were farmers, had no need for SS until they were eligible to draw SS or needed Medicare/Medicaid) So it is not that unusual that the old gentlemen did not need it until he needed Medicare/Medicaid assistance. Madelyn knew the aged gentleman would likely soon die and this would make his SSN the perfect candidate for a con artist trying to establish a fake identity for her young son. She knew the 1977 date of application for the SSN would fit nicely with Obama’s age of about 15 years and the gentleman’s death would then mean that there would be no overlap in use between Obama and the gentleman. That is why Obama held of on using the SSN until the gentleman died and some time had past after his death.
“That is why Obama held of on using the SSN until the gentleman died and some time had past after his death.”
OK, but if the “gentleman” secured an SSN for a purpose (to obtain Medicare or SSN), then a) how come his death doesn’t show up in SS Death Index? and b) how come Daniels’ searches for residences associated with that SSN don’t reveal any of that gentleman’s residences between 1977 and whatever year he died? I hope you can see why I’m confused.
“Let me explain. Madelyn would have sought out a SSN for Obama that belonged to a very old gentleman who conveniently had obtained his SSN late in his lifetime.”
As I pointed out in a reply to someone else, this actually is the exact opposite of the strategy successfully used over 100 times by Bill Ayers to create false SSNs based on dead BABIES.
“The old folks who transitioned into SS, like my parents who were farmers, had no need for SS until they were eligible to draw SS or needed Medicare/Medicaid) So it is not that unusual that the old gentlemen did not need it until he needed Medicare/Medicaid assistance.”
If a person “needed” such assistance, it’s surprising they would voluntarily elect to pay what amounts to a 100% premium penalty by waiting until 87 to apply for Medicare benefits for which they’d become eligible more than a decade earlier. I regard that as “unusual” even though it obviously is not impossible.
“Madelyn knew the aged gentleman would likely soon die and this would make his SSN the perfect candidate for a con artist trying to establish a fake identity for her young son.”
In that time frame, life expectancy of someone surviving to age 87 was about 6 years. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr58/nvsr58_21.pdf Barry’s “need” for a fake SSN must have been substantially lacking in urgency for Madelyn to have calculated he could wait this long. But if it’s so lacking in urgency, then WHY is she risking prison time assisting him in this fabrication?
“She knew the 1977 date of application for the SSN would fit nicely with Obama’s age of about 15 years and the gentleman’s death would then mean that there would be no overlap in use between Obama and the gentleman. That is why Obama held of on using the SSN until the gentleman died and some time had past after his death.”
This is what I still don’t get. The gentleman AND BHO (or Madelyn on his behalf) simultaneously applied for cards in 1977? It’s certainly possible that a bureaucracy like SSA would have failed to connect the dots, but how could Madelyn be certain in advance this would happen? And if duplicate applications WERE detected, she’d end up in jail. This strikes me as an implausibly large risk for a bank VP to take no matter how much she loved her grandson.