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I don't know the right answer to this legal question, in Indiana or any other State. But I find this case interesting for this reason: The Defendant lost, but his case made it to the Indiana Supreme Court, and he lost it by the divided vote of 3-2. So it was a close call as to whether the Defendant had a common-law right to shove a police officer when that officer made an unlawful entry into his home.

I can think of no other country in the world other - including the UK - in which the common-law tradition of liberty still retains enough strength to make a case like this one a close question.

1 posted on 05/13/2011 3:52:08 PM PDT by BCrago66
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The wife gave her implied permission to enter, the man became violent. They should have beat the daylights out of him.


2 posted on 05/13/2011 3:55:17 PM PDT by stockpirate (Republicans that vote for socialism, support socialists are socialists.)
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To: BCrago66
The woman called the cops in between trips to the truck with his "stuff". He was moving out.

The cops arrived.

There was no unlawful entry.

Her rights to consult with the cops were violated by her husband (presumably separated).

Unlawful entry plays no part in any of this yet the state supreme court wrote their entire decision as if there was an unlawful entry.

It's a nutso case ~ none of these judges could get past a rolling drunk test.

I'm not at all worried that a Virginia cop is going to use this as an excuse to just bust into my house. I'm not concerned about that if I visit relatives in Indiana.

Do you have any idea what the percentage of households possessing both guns and pickup trucks is in Indiana?

6 posted on 05/13/2011 4:01:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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This was posted here earlier.
Upon following a few links the facts and circumstances seem to be that the couple was having an argument outside the house, both parties went back into the house and then there were sounds indicating he was threatening and/or injuring her. Not exactly a no knock raid by a SWAT team, more akin to if a cop outside had good reason to believe someone was beating or about to beat their wife (or husband)..

Not that I think the police should *ever* be allowed to enter a home without a warrant, and at that *always* be required to identify themselves, present the warrant and allow examination of it (and yes, if that means that on occasion the bad guys can flush some drugs down the toilet that’s less of an injury to society than no knock raids by dog shooting jack booted thugs) except for a hostage situation.


7 posted on 05/13/2011 4:01:42 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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Can I accidentally spill 5 gallons of water and while fleeing drop a lamp in the water, accidentally?


8 posted on 05/13/2011 4:02:41 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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Slippery slope?
11 posted on 05/13/2011 4:06:29 PM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: BCrago66

An interesting note: Though he did not permit the police to enter his house, it was noted that his wife “begged him to let in the police.”

Now, as far as *legal* entry goes, this would be a slam dunk, because the police only need *one* adult who lives there to give them authority to enter.

Because of this, the trial court should have found that despite what the husband said, the police were authorized to enter, so from that point, his attacking them was assault and resisting arrest.

But while the defendant would ignore this, the prosecution and the judge should have noted it, as it would have made his appeal fruitless from the get go, and the State supreme court would have turned it down.

This suggests that the State supreme court was looking for an excuse in this case, and might have possibly colluded with the trial court judge.


13 posted on 05/13/2011 4:12:20 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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There is a law here that I have the right to defend myself against intruders. If I happened to kill one inside the door few questions are asked. What if a robber comes in dressed like a cop? 12 Ga can't tell the difference. Be polite and knock. That goes for the bear that tried to get in.
18 posted on 05/13/2011 4:23:29 PM PDT by mountainlion (America land of the free because of the Brave.)
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Same topic, earlier thread
20 posted on 05/13/2011 4:47:53 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits, Immigration.)
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Entire article is written from an anti-police standpoint.

Wife had legal right to be in house. She clearly indicated her request for police to enter.

They then had a right to enter.

End of case.


23 posted on 05/13/2011 5:04:57 PM PDT by MindBender26 (While the MSM slept.... we have become relevant media in America.)
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Entire article is written from an anti-police standpoint.

Wife had legal right to be in house. She clearly indicated her request for police to enter.

They then had a right to enter.

End of case.


24 posted on 05/13/2011 5:04:57 PM PDT by MindBender26 (While the MSM slept.... we have become relevant media in America.)
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35 posted on 05/13/2011 6:41:25 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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American NAZIs on the march...

Our very own Gestapo!


38 posted on 05/13/2011 7:02:40 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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