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To: Hotlanta Mike
Mike, the released document does not claim to be a "COPY" of the original. The Document given to the pResident's attorney was a new document, an abstract newly compiled using some part of the data on file with the HIDOH. Of course, everyone thinks it is a xerox or photocopy of the original. Of course, it is not.

Therefore the released BC is not a "COPY" of the original documents on file. Rather it is an "ABSTRACT." The WH has indeed released a "COPY." However it is not, as they have led everyone to believe, a "COPY" of the original long form BC.
In fact, if one were to study their remarks on the subject carefully, one would find that they have actually never claimed that it was!

IOW, the WH has released a faithful copy of the abstract the HIDOH gave them, rather neatly making any problems with the document, "NOT OUR FAULT!"

The deception has worked brilliantly. While the world now accepts it as a copy of the pResident's actual BC, we still have no idea of everything that might, or might not, be on the source documents from which it was "abstracted."

It's not what
the HIDOH put in the abstract.
It's what they didn't.

We'll apparently never see the originals, or know what's on them, because Congress and the Courts have refused to consider the issue in any way, shape, or form. Stranger still is the fact that the State of Hawaii, contrary to its own version of the "Freedom of Information" laws, refuses access to to them!
614 posted on 05/12/2011 11:02:12 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: Kenny Bunk; All
Thanks KB...here's a statement from Orly who gave ORAL ARGUMENTS in court in LA yesterday... [Yesterday I had a an oral argument in Hornbeck v Salazar. This case deals with the fact that Obama administration de facto destroyed oil and gas industry in the gulf of Mexico by placing a moratorium and later, when the federal judge placed an injunction on the moratorium, Obama regime contimued destroying the oil and gas industry by refusing to grant drilling permits. Most of the rigs left the region and moved to Brazil. Recently Obama visited Brazil and congratuled them on their offshore deep water drilling and stated that US will be their biggest customer, showing him as the the most antiAmerican president this nation ever saw. My argument was that the damages suffered in the case at hand were rooted in the same problem: antiAmerican usurper in the White House, who got there by virtue of fraud and use of a forged birth certificate and invalid Social Security number, issued to another individual in another state. While it was a really long shot, I was able to get an oral argument. For the first time in U.S. history I was able to get into the official court record, a historic record of the Federal District court sworn expert affidavits, attesting to the fact that an individual occupying the position of the U.S. president, is there by virtue of forgery. this is a serious criminal offense, for which Obama needs to be removed from office immediately and criminally prosecuted. I will get a copy of the oral argument and will post it as well. Presiding magistrate judge Joseph Wilkinson let me speak for about 10-12 minutes. Assistant US attorney Carl Mansfield spoke after me and later David Rosenblum, attorney for Hornbeck offshore industries. Mansfield just submitted on the pleadings and Rosenblum stated that he did not oppose my intervention and did not file an opposition. While previously judges tried to keep this matter quiet, now they allow oral argument. I, also, noticed that before judges would keep all the ObamaFraudGate cases to the end, so that other attorneys and spectators don’t hear and don’t know those cases even exist. Judge Wilkinson did the opposite. He let me speak first. This way all the attorneys in this full courtroom could hear my argument and would go to their fims and report, that they heard reports, expert affidavits of forgery in Obama’s birth certificate, evidence that Obama is using an invalid Social Security number, whch was never issued to him. As the Assistant US attorney Mansfield entered the courtroom, I handed him my reply brief and could see him reading it and reviewing the evidence. I could see that he was not a happy camper, he loooked like he just swollowed a dead rat. When his turn came to speak, he didn’t say anything, he just said that he submits on the pleadings. I felt bad for him. it must not be pleasant, to be an assistant US attorney in a case, which shows, that his boss, occupying the position of the president, is using forged documents. Judge Wilkinson asked me, what happened in Carter’s court. i explained that originally Judge Carter stated on the record that there ios juridiction in his court, later when Obama’s defense firm attorney was placed as his clerk, Carter changed his position and suddenly decided that there is no jurisdiction. Wilkinson did not say anything, but just smiled, and by his face expression I could tell that he knew exactly what I was telling and what was going on. He asked me about the 9th circuit,m what happened there, whether I provided all this evidence there. I responded that i could not provide all this evidence in the 9th circuit, as Obama released his BC only 2 working days before the hearing, I did not have an ecxpert opinion yet and I was limited in time and in what was part of the case in the District court. I was able to argue the issue of the Social Security fraud, Selective Service certificate fraud and forged BC. One of pro-obama operatives was there. they always come to my hearings. This woman goes by a pseudonim Butterfly Bildeberg. She is one of a group of attorneys, posting on pro-Obama web sites, attacking patriots and helipng Obama in cover up of his SS fraud and elections fraud. Next to her name on fogbow there is a drawing of a beautiful young woman with a butterfly covering her mouth. She looked completely different from the drawing. She looked about mid fifties, short statute, about 5′2″-5′3″, she looked husky, wide build. she reminded me of Elena Kagan, but with darker and a bit longer hair. She was talking to the the US attorney Mansfield and it appeared they knew each other. Most of these attorneys attacking us, work for the federal government: US attorney’s office or as clerks in different courts.]
633 posted on 05/12/2011 1:59:44 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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